Will this guy make it? 1700 miles in Searider

Will this guy make it? 1700 miles in Searider

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ecsrobin

17,129 posts

166 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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EmailAddress said:
I'm all caught up now.

Love a Series to binge but frustrating when you hit the current wait!

Viewed up to Ep.18
I don't really understand why that boat place went to all the bother of spending hundreds of man-hours getting the finish on the hull just so, but didn't remove the inflatable rim.

Either, that's a massive oversight, they are quite incompetent, or; the whole excercise was a synical view grab and they cut the corners to give a good perception, but actually only slapped a bit of fibre glass on and called it a day.

If that was a vehicle restoration / fix it would be akin to a respray without removing the windscreen.

The transom looked quite tidy, but the state of the lip would surely be your first port of call after removing any rot.

Big job I'm sure. But they were 80% there through what they did already. Bizarre decision making.
I’m guessing you’ve not read the thread but “that boat place” is a PH’er so I’m sure he will be happy to answer your questions on if it was an oversight, incompetence or “a cynical view grab” as you put it.

EmailAddress

12,213 posts

219 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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ecsrobin said:
EmailAddress said:
I'm all caught up now.

Love a Series to binge but frustrating when you hit the current wait!

Viewed up to Ep.18
I don't really understand why that boat place went to all the bother of spending hundreds of man-hours getting the finish on the hull just so, but didn't remove the inflatable rim.

Either, that's a massive oversight, they are quite incompetent, or; the whole excercise was a synical view grab and they cut the corners to give a good perception, but actually only slapped a bit of fibre glass on and called it a day.

If that was a vehicle restoration / fix it would be akin to a respray without removing the windscreen.

The transom looked quite tidy, but the state of the lip would surely be your first port of call after removing any rot.

Big job I'm sure. But they were 80% there through what they did already. Bizarre decision making.
I’m guessing you’ve not read the thread but “that boat place” is a PH’er so I’m sure he will be happy to answer your questions on if it was an oversight, incompetence or “a cynical view grab” as you put it.
I await, to find out why they half-arsed it for exposure, sure.

hidetheelephants

24,459 posts

194 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Removing/replacing the collar is about the most expensive process done to a RHIB.

EmailAddress

12,213 posts

219 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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hidetheelephants said:
Removing/replacing the collar is about the most expensive process done to a RHIB.
I'd imagine it's a right PITA!

In the videos when he comments that the materials for repair / replacement are rare(?) or unavailable, I presume there are newer options available.

Mark-insert old BMW

16,205 posts

174 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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I'm just on part 8 now. Living in Cornwall (and North Devon for s few years) I really enjoyed that leg of the journey. Mylor is lovely and I usually hire a Picarooner which coincidentally are usually associated with Clovelly. I'd love to own one but as I only go out around 7 times a year rental makes much more sense. I plan on getting a small sailing dinghy next year though.

Mark-insert old BMW

16,205 posts

174 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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Part 10 and really enjoyed learning some history around RIB and how they came to be invented. Never ceases to amaze me how fantastic the UK looks from the sea and the perspective it gives you.

EmailAddress

12,213 posts

219 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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Mark-insert old BMW said:
Part 10 and really enjoyed learning some history around RIB and how they came to be invented. Never ceases to amaze me how fantastic the UK looks from the sea and the perspective it gives you.
The changeability of the weather too. Within minutes it's sunny, foggy, windy etc.

Gives a good perspective on how dangerous our coastal waters are, pre-gadgets.

J3JCV

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1,249 posts

156 months

Saturday 25th November 2023
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EmailAddress said:
ecsrobin said:
EmailAddress said:
I'm all caught up now.

Love a Series to binge but frustrating when you hit the current wait!

Viewed up to Ep.18
I don't really understand why that boat place went to all the bother of spending hundreds of man-hours getting the finish on the hull just so, but didn't remove the inflatable rim.

Either, that's a massive oversight, they are quite incompetent, or; the whole excercise was a synical view grab and they cut the corners to give a good perception, but actually only slapped a bit of fibre glass on and called it a day.

If that was a vehicle restoration / fix it would be akin to a respray without removing the windscreen.

The transom looked quite tidy, but the state of the lip would surely be your first port of call after removing any rot.

Big job I'm sure. But they were 80% there through what they did already. Bizarre decision making.
I’m guessing you’ve not read the thread but “that boat place” is a PH’er so I’m sure he will be happy to answer your questions on if it was an oversight, incompetence or “a cynical view grab” as you put it.
I await, to find out why they half-arsed it for exposure, sure.
Ha ha this is good, like always on boats the job grew like mad and honestly we just fitted the work in when we could. Obviously we were aware Harry would film and make an episode, but didn't clock quite how much. I was very clear that if we got anything out of it what I would love is to appeal to potential employees and hopefully help with recruiting. So yes there was a motive to doing the work, No slapping anything on though - making that old bucket capable of handling a big heavy 4 stroke 50 is one thing, however also a massive concern is the ridiculous but fantastic radar arch and associated gear... keeping that from ripping off at sea requires significant effort. Those parts didn't break so I'm happy smile I'm fairly certain adding strength in places we did, moved the problem. At the end of the day he's a guy you just want to do stuff for and I'm ever in awe of what he does. Most people who live or work around the sea, know too much to ever do what he is doing.

EmailAddress

12,213 posts

219 months

Saturday 25th November 2023
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J3JCV said:
EmailAddress said:
ecsrobin said:
EmailAddress said:
I'm all caught up now.

Love a Series to binge but frustrating when you hit the current wait!

Viewed up to Ep.18
I don't really understand why that boat place went to all the bother of spending hundreds of man-hours getting the finish on the hull just so, but didn't remove the inflatable rim.

Either, that's a massive oversight, they are quite incompetent, or; the whole excercise was a synical view grab and they cut the corners to give a good perception, but actually only slapped a bit of fibre glass on and called it a day.

If that was a vehicle restoration / fix it would be akin to a respray without removing the windscreen.

The transom looked quite tidy, but the state of the lip would surely be your first port of call after removing any rot.

Big job I'm sure. But they were 80% there through what they did already. Bizarre decision making.
I’m guessing you’ve not read the thread but “that boat place” is a PH’er so I’m sure he will be happy to answer your questions on if it was an oversight, incompetence or “a cynical view grab” as you put it.
I await, to find out why they half-arsed it for exposure, sure.
Ha ha this is good, like always on boats the job grew like mad and honestly we just fitted the work in when we could. Obviously we were aware Harry would film and make an episode, but didn't clock quite how much. I was very clear that if we got anything out of it what I would love is to appeal to potential employees and hopefully help with recruiting. So yes there was a motive to doing the work, No slapping anything on though - making that old bucket capable of handling a big heavy 4 stroke 50 is one thing, however also a massive concern is the ridiculous but fantastic radar arch and associated gear... keeping that from ripping off at sea requires significant effort. Those parts didn't break so I'm happy smile I'm fairly certain adding strength in places we did, moved the problem. At the end of the day he's a guy you just want to do stuff for and I'm ever in awe of what he does. Most people who live or work around the sea, know too much to ever do what he is doing.
laugh

Fair!

I bet it's like chasing rot on an 80s Ford, peel back the carpet and you wish you didn't know there has been a hole in the floor for the last X thousand miles hehe

He comes across as a fk-it-find-out kind of guy, where I wish that with but a little more of a plan, the outcome would be more than the some of its parts.

The engine fire is a good example. He can strip an engine, service, rebuild. Then cuts a corner/ or has a moment of oversight at the end and gives himself hours of work.

Regarding the boat tidy up. A bit more of a plan and it could have been a '7' across all areas. Rather than a 10 on hull and transom, and a nowt on the rubber.

I can see how you've both approached it though, thanks for that.

As an absolute perfectionist myself, I really have to reign in my ambition sometimes simply to get a project finished.

Mark-insert old BMW

16,205 posts

174 months

Sunday 26th November 2023
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Just watched up to episode 18 and it was obvious (to me anyway) that a lot of hard work went into Goodwin and it was certainly no botch job. They knew where Harry was taking Goodwin next and the risk involved, so I wouldn't believe they wouldn't do the job properly whilst knowing full well their work would be all over the internet for perpetuity. Added to which Harry said that he'd spotted that a section of the hull was so thin that light was passing through, so maybe then was the time to address the issue? I also wonder if Harry's repair of the bow would have last the punishment of Kate Wrath?

Anyway, looking forward to part 19.

J3JCV

Original Poster:

1,249 posts

156 months

Sunday 26th November 2023
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EmailAddress said:
ecsrobin said:
EmailAddress said:
I'm all caught up now.

Love a Series to binge but frustrating when you hit the current wait!

Viewed up to Ep.18
I don't really understand why that boat place went to all the bother of spending hundreds of man-hours getting the finish on the hull just so, but didn't remove the inflatable rim.

Either, that's a massive oversight, they are quite incompetent, or; the whole excercise was a synical view grab and they cut the corners to give a good perception, but actually only slapped a bit of fibre glass on and called it a day.

If that was a vehicle restoration / fix it would be akin to a respray without removing the windscreen.

The transom looked quite tidy, but the state of the lip would surely be your first port of call after removing any rot.

Big job I'm sure. But they were 80% there through what they did already. Bizarre decision making.
I’m guessing you’ve not read the thread but “that boat place” is a PH’er so I’m sure he will be happy to answer your questions on if it was an oversight, incompetence or “a cynical view grab” as you put it.
I await, to find out why they half-arsed it for exposure, sure.
Ha ha this is good, like always on boats the job grew like mad and honestly we just fitted the work in when we could. Obviously we were aware Harry would film and make an episode, but didn't clock quite how much. I was very clear that if we got anything out of it what I would love is to appeal to potential employees and hopefully help with recruiting. So yes there was a motive to doing the work, No slapping anything on though - making that old bucket capable of handling a big heavy 4 stroke 50 is one thing, however also a massive concern is the ridiculous but fantastic radar arch and associated gear... keeping that from ripping off at sea requires significant effort. Those parts didn't break so I'm happy smile I'm fairly certain adding strength in places we did, moved the problem. At the end of the day he's a guy you just want to do stuff for and I'm ever in awe of what he does. Most people who live or work around the sea, know too much to ever do what he is doing.

dhutch

14,390 posts

198 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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I've just watched "The cardboard houseboat part2" I dont really understand why no effort at all was made to waterproof the outerskin, but it does somewhat enforce that face the guy is just willing to have a go and see how it does!

EmailAddress

12,213 posts

219 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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They varnished it.

The whole thing was PVA'd together which began to fail once water got behind the veneer.

dhutch

14,390 posts

198 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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EmailAddress said:
They varnished it.
Ah, somehow missed that step but I see it now. Epoxy resin varnish.
If they had thrown a layer of 150gsm glass cloth into the mix it might have held together a lot better.

No point in using more then PVA as the card wont be any less water resistant.

cherryowen

11,715 posts

205 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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After another contributor posted Ep.18 on the Official YT thread in The Lounge, I've now binged the series for the second time and watched the initial boat resto.

It. Is. Just. Wonderful.

Remember the BBC series "Coast"? For me, this is better. More relaxed, more irreverent, and with better footage of the UK's coast. There are some sections that are also a bit perilous such as Whitehaven across the Solway Firth, dabbling with Corryvreckan, and rounding Cape Wrath which deserve a hearty pat on the back.

Does anyone have a favourite episode so far?

No.17 for me from Crinan to Ullapool, for the scenery; just stunning.

Jackarmy100

513 posts

204 months

Thursday 21st December 2023
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It’s the episode they went to the Scilly isles that had me gobsmacked.
It just looked like they had travelled to the Caribbean. And it’s so close to us.

Wonder when the next instalment is due? (Probably when they have had a change of underwear after going round Cape Wrath, and have managed to fix the hull)

StephenP

1,886 posts

211 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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Jackarmy100 said:
Wonder when the next instalment is due? (Probably when they have had a change of underwear after going round Cape Wrath, and have managed to fix the hull)
Based on AIS, I think their last stop was just east of Edinburgh in September so presumably he's got another episode of footage ready to edit.

cherryowen

11,715 posts

205 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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StephenP said:
Based on AIS, I think their last stop was just east of Edinburgh in September so presumably he's got another episode of footage ready to edit.
bounce



MartG

20,691 posts

205 months

Wednesday 7th February
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New episode is out - repairing Goodwin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tyiivfTm_M

cherryowen

11,715 posts

205 months

Wednesday 7th February
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I did think Goodwin took a bit of a pounding going around Cape Wrath, but I wasn't expecting that level of damage! Harry & Charlie got away lightly on the leg.

O/T, isn't "Marie" a very lovely thing?