Final two BA 747s Leaving Heathrow for the Last Time

Final two BA 747s Leaving Heathrow for the Last Time

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anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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peter tdci said:
48k said:
Anyone know what category ILS they have at Kemble? Looks like the cloudbase is 700 feet max could be a very late call.
There is no ILS at Kemble which I guess was the reason for being fuelled for a longish hold.
There’s no approach aids or published approaches (GPS etc) at all at Kemble not even a VOR or NDB

It’s just a visual approach like you’d do into your local farm filed airstrip.


anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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CS Garth said:
mstrbkr said:
Burrow01 said:
Wow. That is fantastic.
I wonder if that explains the “hold” over Brize and Fairford and the very low pass at 1600ft over the former on the final approach?
That’s not from today hehe

The hold at brize was due to the weather at Kemble and it’s the nearest place with a navigation aid to hold at.

CS Garth

2,860 posts

105 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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El stovey said:
That’s not from today hehe

The hold at brize was due to the weather at Kemble and it’s the nearest place with a navigation aid to hold at.
The sky did look suspiciously blue....

caiss4

1,876 posts

197 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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The give away is that is G-BYGC in the BOAC livery. The two aircraft today were G-CIVB in the Negus livery (now at Kemble) and G-CIVY in current livery that went to St. Athan.

Burrow01

1,806 posts

192 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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Sorry - thats what you get for believing Twitter :-)

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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caiss4 said:
The give away is that is G-BYGC in the BOAC livery. The two aircraft today were G-CIVB in the Negus livery (now at Kemble) and G-CIVY in current livery that went to St. Athan.
I think some people reposted the old red arrows clip from RIAT last year and now Twitter is full of people talking about the red arrows send off and people complaining about waste etc.

The BOAC 747 in the video unfortunately got stored in Cardiff back in June.


aeropilot

34,589 posts

227 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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eharding said:
Good to see Sky News being as on the ball as ever...

laugh

Par for the course with all journo's these days.

aeropilot

34,589 posts

227 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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CS Garth said:
El stovey said:
That’s not from today hehe

The hold at brize was due to the weather at Kemble and it’s the nearest place with a navigation aid to hold at.
The sky did look suspiciously blue....
That was RIAT last year.

GT03ROB

13,262 posts

221 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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pete said:
BA 747s have flown me all over the world over the past 20 years, including a memorable unplanned 24 hours in rural Kazakhstan. It's a sad day to hear the last one fly over my garden, but I'll certainly make the trip to Kemble at some point to show my young kids the original "jumbo jet".
I assume you were on that notorious flight of escaped bees! Uralsk is a dire airport, terminal a dump, but the airside cafe does cold beer & caviar!

The 747s were good old birds, upper deck like a private jet. But boy were they tired.

C70R

17,596 posts

104 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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pete said:
BA 747s have flown me all over the world over the past 20 years, including a memorable unplanned 24 hours in rural Kazakhstan. It's a sad day to hear the last one fly over my garden, but I'll certainly make the trip to Kemble at some point to show my young kids the original "jumbo jet".
Same. I didn't set foot on a plane until was 18, but have spent a lot of the past 20 years travelling for work.

The 747 always represented the ultimate for me - something to aspire to flying on, and maybe going upstairs in - and while progress is amazing it's also tinged with a little sadness for me.

Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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It's only the BA 747s that were retired today.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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Eric Mc said:
It's only the BA 747s that were retired today.
Not many opportunities to fly on them as a passenger now though, especially from the U.K.

LotusOmega375D

7,618 posts

153 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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Just going back to that Sky News error. Early this week one of the broadcasters (Channel 4 News?) were running a story about returning a single asylum seeker from the UK to France on a “Jumbo Jet” chartered by the Government. It was a Titan Airways A320. A very nice plane, but not a Jumbo Jet by any means. Also he was accompanied by a gaggle of French officials and there should have been dozens of other passengers on board, but their legal teams had managed to stall the extradition process at the very last minute, so they didn’t board.

Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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El stovey said:
Not many opportunities to fly on them as a passenger now though, especially from the U.K.
True - but you will still be able to see them for quite some time. I reckon there will still be quite a few flying at least ten years from now.

aeropilot

34,589 posts

227 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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Eric Mc said:
El stovey said:
Not many opportunities to fly on them as a passenger now though, especially from the U.K.
True - but you will still be able to see them for quite some time. I reckon there will still be quite a few flying at least ten years from now.
You'll still be seeing 747F's flying cargo around the world for probably another 20+ years or even longer given the advantages of the F over most other ex-airliners.


Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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The last I heard Boeing were still planning to make them until mid 2022 or thereabouts, and the US presidential 747-8s being refurbished are expected to be delivered in 2024.

carreauchompeur

17,846 posts

204 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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Sad day. It always felt really special going on a 747 for the sheer bulk of it.

They were really creaking towards the end though, went to Cape Town in Feb and the plane really did feel internally ready for retirement. Along with being a full flight and (ot) awful service it’s the last time I’ll fly BA,

aeropilot

34,589 posts

227 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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Dr Jekyll said:
The last I heard Boeing were still planning to make them until mid 2022 or thereabouts, and the US presidential 747-8s being refurbished are expected to be delivered in 2024.
They are only building the ones left on the order book, about 16 IIRC, as of a couple of months ago, and have slowed the build rate down to half an aircraft per month.
There's still a question mark over there even all 16 of those being built as 4 of them were for a Russian firm who have told Boeing that can't pay for them, and Boeing are in a legal battle of that. UPS has taken one of those 4 adding to the 12 of those 16 it had already ordered.

So, it might be down to about 10 left to complete, so early 2022 most likely the last will be rolled out.

It has only sold about 50 airliner 747-8's and the last two of those were the two that were were for the now defunct Russian airline Transaero, and are the two that were then bought by the US Govt for conversion into the new VC-25B for POTUS.

The firm that has built all the fuselage sub-assemblies for the 747 for Boeing ever since the late 60's has already completed the final one, and indeed has sold off/destroyed all the tooling already, so there definately won't be anymore after Boeing finishes the current order book.


Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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I wonder how much of the jigs and tooling originally used for the 747-100 made it through to the 747-8?

Clubman270

960 posts

197 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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carreauchompeur said:
Sad day. It always felt really special going on a 747 for the sheer bulk of it.

They were really creaking towards the end though, went to Cape Town in Feb and the plane really did feel internally ready for retirement. Along with being a full flight and (ot) awful service it’s the last time I’ll fly BA,
I have to go down to Lagos every November to work at a trade show there, the old girl's they (used to) use on that route looked pretty old too, god knows how they even took off with all the baggage on board!