Which boat for next summer?
Discussion
IforB said:
pequod said:
IforB said:
I think that wee bubble may have passed. I have never seen anything like it though. Boats were being sold at a rate that defied any explanation and even absolute dross was commanding a premium.
I was after a new rib having sold my old one at the end of last season. I blew that off and will buy this winter I stead, as prices appear to be getting back to sanity again.
A dip over Winter, but I expect the asking price of boats to surge again next Spring as folk will be looking for an alternative holiday in the UK and a small boat for the Summer will be very popular, particularly if the weather is similar to this year!I was after a new rib having sold my old one at the end of last season. I blew that off and will buy this winter I stead, as prices appear to be getting back to sanity again.
If I was considering this idea, I wouldn't wait 'til next Spring!
Louis Balfour said:
Really? That's brilliant. I will keep my boat there until spring. What is the maximum length you can accommodate?
I saw the Robalo at London Excel boat show and had to ask my 'butler' to go home to put his tape measure on the barn aperture whilst I sipped the dealer's bubbly at the stand. Signed when the dimensions were called in. Went for the max height, width and length for the barn with manoeuvring space either side. Important to mentally walk through detailed practicalities of intended use (bubbles help there) before contracting to buy.Allow length for the trailer A frame and check highest point when boat is on trailer (I have to drop my bimini frame to go in/out).
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pequod said:
Jaguar steve said:
Simpo Two said:
Badda said:
Wait till spring sounds sensible but if you've seen a boat you absolutely love, buy it or you'll forever regret it when you can't find one of similar spec again.
Yep, good boats can sell within 24 hours of the advert going live, especially with Covid around. Next spring the bunfight will start, competition will be hotter and prices will go up.Winter storage - well you can still use boats in the winter, it's just colder
I wouldn't let engine hours sway my decision - compared to cars, boat engines do very little work.
As Simoncelli says, a surveyor won't examine the engine, other than 'Engine - one - appears to be in good order' etc. For that you need an engineer if you want to be really fussy.
Boat we eventually bought on a Friday had two more people waiting to view on Saturday.
Like Simpo I can't wait to see how much mooring fees and boatyard hourly rates go up next year...
Obviously, the marina operators will be making the most of this windfall! Best advice for new boat owners is to check the prices wherever they are intending to moor before committing to that new boat!
I knew boats were selling fast but nonetheless thought I'd had my pants properly pulled down when all I could do was to push the previous owner a smudge under his asking price and wheedled his tender, outboard and deep water mooring for the rest of the season into the deal.
pequod said:
Yep, of course, but how many available moorings and do you want to remain motoring up and down the same stretch of water?!
It's never the same twice; I love it. Just moved marina after six years at the last one. Besides, I have no room here for a trailer, and couldn't launch and recover a 27' 2.2 ton boat single-handed, nor do I want to drag it up and Britain's roads. Not sure a Jag XK is really designed for towing either. And every time I went to a different waterway I'd have to buy another licence. Put simply it's not an option!pequod said:
IforB said:
pequod said:
IforB said:
I think that wee bubble may have passed. I have never seen anything like it though. Boats were being sold at a rate that defied any explanation and even absolute dross was commanding a premium.
I was after a new rib having sold my old one at the end of last season. I blew that off and will buy this winter I stead, as prices appear to be getting back to sanity again.
A dip over Winter, but I expect the asking price of boats to surge again next Spring as folk will be looking for an alternative holiday in the UK and a small boat for the Summer will be very popular, particularly if the weather is similar to this year!I was after a new rib having sold my old one at the end of last season. I blew that off and will buy this winter I stead, as prices appear to be getting back to sanity again.
If I was considering this idea, I wouldn't wait 'til next Spring!
IforB said:
Offshore. Something around 35-40ft. Twin diesels and a couple of cabins. Probably a flybridge.
A few nice looking boats in that range on the Duck including this one I would be keen to view...https://motorboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/sealine-f...
Simpo Two said:
pequod said:
Yep, of course, but how many available moorings and do you want to remain motoring up and down the same stretch of water?!
It's never the same twice; I love it. Just moved marina after six years at the last one. Besides, I have no room here for a trailer, and couldn't launch and recover a 27' 2.2 ton boat single-handed, nor do I want to drag it up and Britain's roads. Not sure a Jag XK is really designed for towing either. And every time I went to a different waterway I'd have to buy another licence. Put simply it's not an option!Your point about towing a large craft up and down the country is relevant to the OP's question and shouldn't be ignored albeit, he may be too young to own a Jag!!
pequod said:
he may be too young to own a Jag!!
Oh I dunno, they've worked hard over the last 15 years to replace walnut with black plastic and make the ride uncomfortable I'm on the Fens (Great Ouse/Cam), a relative backwater compared to the Broads and not connected, though both are certainly worth exploring.
pequod said:
IforB said:
Offshore. Something around 35-40ft. Twin diesels and a couple of cabins. Probably a flybridge.
A few nice looking boats in that range on the Duck including this one I would be keen to view...https://motorboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/sealine-f...
Thankyou4calling said:
pequod said:
IforB said:
Offshore. Something around 35-40ft. Twin diesels and a couple of cabins. Probably a flybridge.
A few nice looking boats in that range on the Duck including this one I would be keen to view...https://motorboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/sealine-f...
Simpo Two said:
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I'm on the Fens (Great Ouse/Cam), a relative backwater compared to the Broads and not connected, though both are certainly worth exploring.
Apologies, I forgot you were on the Fens. I'm on the Fens (Great Ouse/Cam), a relative backwater compared to the Broads and not connected, though both are certainly worth exploring.
Can you provide a comparison, for those of us that don't know the area, the difference between the Broads and Fens in terms of boating access, ease of navigation, overnight moorings/facilities. pls?
Might be relevant to the topic?
Badda said:
Agreed. Just hate the name and helm sofa.
Yes. A proper captains chair plus decent upholstery and soft furnishings.That boat to the untrained eye looks new (in shape not necessarily condition)
I think that’s one of the advantages boats have over cars as a 51 reg car looks ancient whereas boats basic shapes don’t change ( I know they do but I’m speaking in general)
That’s a lot of boat for £100k. I’d take that across the channel and more.
pequod said:
A few nice looking boats in that range on the Duck including this one I would be keen to view...
https://motorboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/sealine-f...
That looks great. Cheers! https://motorboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/sealine-f...
Badda said:
Agreed. Just hate the name and helm sofa.
Names can be changed. The oval dining table is pretty useless for dining on, and 'sports cruisers' in general have very small windows - if you had any great desire to see out from the saloon or cabins...pequod said:
Can you provide a comparison, for those of us that don't know the area, the difference between the Broads and Fens in terms of boating access, ease of navigation, overnight moorings/facilities. pls?
Might be relevant to the topic?
Well I guess most people know the Broads, or have been on them. Pretty, but very busy, and also tidal, with a rather grim bit in the middle connecting the north and south Broads. Can also attract a slight hooligan element in peak periods. The majority of the boats are hire boats, often quite large. The two famously low bridges, Potter Heigham and Wroxham, filter out the bigger boats so the rivers are much quieter beyond. Stern mooring is commonplace as is a charge of £10 a night to moor, though there are official free moorings too. The Broads are managed by the Broads Authority.Might be relevant to the topic?
The Fens are pretty much the opposite, based around the Great Ouse, and divide into 'west' and 'east' with Hermitage Lock at the join. The capital of the west is St Ives, and the more you head west the prettier the river gets. That side has locks, mostly electric. East of Hermitage, the very pastoral and sometimes weedy Old West river becomes the Gt Ouse again and you can then go north to the 'east capital' Ely, or south on the Cam to Cambridge which in places resembles a Constable painting. The eastern side has almost no locks which is handy for the sole boater. The Ely side is seen by some as bleak, with embankments often hiding much of the land, but I love the sheer remoteness of it and the big skies. Ely is a great place to visit and arriving by river is always rewarding. Compared to the Broads there are few boats, and most are privately owned. There's only one hire boat company on the whole system. If you like to get away from the madding crowd, you can do it here. The Fens are managed by the Environment Agency.
I haven't owned a boat on the Broads but my understanding is that moorings/marinas are more expensive there. On the plus side, there's much better support infrastructure of engineers and know-how. But the Fens are easier to get to by road. If anyone wants to know more about the Fens, just PM me.
Edited by Simpo Two on Friday 30th October 22:11
Simpo Two said:
Well I guess most people know the Broads, or have been on them. Pretty, but very busy, and also tidal, with a rather grim bit in the middle connecting the north and south Broads. Can also attract a slight hooligan element in peak periods. The majority of the boats are hire boats, often quite large. The two famously low bridges, Potter Heigham and Wroxham, filter out the bigger boats so the rivers are much quieter beyond. Stern mooring is commonplace as is a charge of £10 a night to moor, though there are official free moorings too. The Broads are managed by the Broads Authority.
The Fens are pretty much the opposite, based around the Great Ouse, and divide into 'west' and 'east' with Hermitage Lock at the join. The capital of the west is St Ives, and the more you head west the prettier the river gets. That side has locks, mostly electric. East of Hermitage, the very pastoral and sometimes weedy Old West river becomes the Gt Ouse again and you can then go north to the 'west capital' Ely, or south on the Cam to Cambridge which in places resembles a Constable painting. The western side has almost no locks which is handy for the sole boater. The Ely side is seen by some as bleak, with embankments often hiding much of the land, but I love the sheer remoteness of it and the big skies. Ely is a great place to visit and arriving by river is always rewarding. Compared to the Broads there are few boats, and most are privately owned. There's only one hire boat company on the whole system. If you like to get away from the madding crowd, you can do it here. The Fens are managed by the Environment Agency.
I haven't owned a boat on the Broads but my understanding is that moorings/marinas are more expensive there. On the plus side, there's much better support infrastructure of engineers and know-how. But the Fens are easier to get to by road. If anyone wants to know more about the Fens, just PM me.
Thanks for that excellent precis, I think the Fens is more to my liking!The Fens are pretty much the opposite, based around the Great Ouse, and divide into 'west' and 'east' with Hermitage Lock at the join. The capital of the west is St Ives, and the more you head west the prettier the river gets. That side has locks, mostly electric. East of Hermitage, the very pastoral and sometimes weedy Old West river becomes the Gt Ouse again and you can then go north to the 'west capital' Ely, or south on the Cam to Cambridge which in places resembles a Constable painting. The western side has almost no locks which is handy for the sole boater. The Ely side is seen by some as bleak, with embankments often hiding much of the land, but I love the sheer remoteness of it and the big skies. Ely is a great place to visit and arriving by river is always rewarding. Compared to the Broads there are few boats, and most are privately owned. There's only one hire boat company on the whole system. If you like to get away from the madding crowd, you can do it here. The Fens are managed by the Environment Agency.
I haven't owned a boat on the Broads but my understanding is that moorings/marinas are more expensive there. On the plus side, there's much better support infrastructure of engineers and know-how. But the Fens are easier to get to by road. If anyone wants to know more about the Fens, just PM me.
I got my east and west mixed up.
"and you can then go north to the 'west capital' Ely, or south on the Cam to Cambridge which in places resembles a Constable painting. The western side has almost no locks which is handy for the sole boater."
...should read:
"and you can then go north to the 'east capital' Ely, or south on the Cam to Cambridge which in places resembles a Constable painting. The eastern side has almost no locks which is handy for the sole boater."
"and you can then go north to the 'west capital' Ely, or south on the Cam to Cambridge which in places resembles a Constable painting. The western side has almost no locks which is handy for the sole boater."
...should read:
"and you can then go north to the 'east capital' Ely, or south on the Cam to Cambridge which in places resembles a Constable painting. The eastern side has almost no locks which is handy for the sole boater."
Edited by Simpo Two on Friday 30th October 22:16
pequod said:
Thanks for that excellent precis, I think the Fens is more to my liking!
If you have a week or two you can get from the Fens via the River Nene 'Middle Level' to the Grand Union canal and the whole UK canal network. One reason why there's a high proportion of narrowboats on this river system! On the Broads I saw only one narrowboat.Gassing Station | Boats, Planes & Trains | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff