Hawker Typhoon rebuild
Discussion
Yertis said:
Mustang as a chase plane is rather cool - suppose it gives you something with similar handling and speed range?xeny said:
Yertis said:
Mustang as a chase plane is rather cool - suppose it gives you something with similar handling and speed range?aeropilot said:
Eric Mc said:
Great to see. It's noticeably bigger than the Sea Fury.
Sea Fury has a 3ft shorter wingspan, and sits a little higher up, otherwise they are pretty much same size, with exactly same fuselage length etc.swampy442 said:
What a wonderful sound. I hope theve found a way to make the Centaurus reliable, be a shame if they all eventually get replaced with American radials
As I understood it, one of the lubricants required for the Centaurus had been out of production for years. Was a fresh batch made or was an alternative found?Maybe I'm getting muddled up with the Napier Sabre in the Tempest Mk V?
Eric Mc said:
They took out almost all the entire centre section of the wing for the Sea Fury. And as you said, they mounted the pilots seating position higher to improve visibility for carrier operations. The Sea Fury was a better performer overall.
I was interested to read that the Sabre-engined aircraft was preferred because pilots enjoyed a better view over the (narrower) nose, and handled more crisply, than the Centurus-engined machine. Eric Mc said:
aeropilot said:
Eric Mc said:
Great to see. It's noticeably bigger than the Sea Fury.
Sea Fury has a 3ft shorter wingspan, and sits a little higher up, otherwise they are pretty much same size, with exactly same fuselage length etc.I remember reading somewhere that the sleeve valve Centaurus engine is very sensitive to certain additives in the engine oil, and the last of the "proper" oil was lost in the big oil refinery fire a few years ago, which has contributed to engine failiures on Sea Furys. Can't find the reference again but hopefully this one will be ok.
lufbramatt said:
I remember reading somewhere that the sleeve valve Centaurus engine is very sensitive to certain additives in the engine oil, and the last of the "proper" oil was lost in the big oil refinery fire a few years ago, which has contributed to engine failiures on Sea Furys.
Yes, that was the rumour, that the remaining stock of the last batch made by Shell in the 80's was in one of the storage tanks at Buncefield when that went bang 20 years ago.Not ever seen confirmation of that though.
aeropilot said:
lufbramatt said:
I remember reading somewhere that the sleeve valve Centaurus engine is very sensitive to certain additives in the engine oil, and the last of the "proper" oil was lost in the big oil refinery fire a few years ago, which has contributed to engine failiures on Sea Furys.
Yes, that was the rumour, that the remaining stock of the last batch made by Shell in the 80's was in one of the storage tanks at Buncefield when that went bang 20 years ago.Not ever seen confirmation of that though.
Engine Oil - Bristol Sleeve Valves
Tri-cresyl-phosphate has been linked to polyneuropathy (nerve damage), so that may have been a contributing factor to its non-availability.
Edited by GliderRider on Friday 13th October 17:20
GliderRider said:
Tri-cresyl-phosphate has been linked to polyneuropathy (nerve damage), so that may have been a contributing factor to its non-availability.
Only reason for its non-availability was there was no demand from military or commercial civilian users to warrant Shell to make another batch after the last order from UK and French military and civilian users in the 80's.Shell would only make it in large amounts, and with the imminent demise of the French Noratlas fleet, and with the already gone German Sea Fury TT fleet, as well as RAF Hastings fleets, that only left the RNHF Sea Fury, Bristol Freighter's in NZ and the civilian warbird Sea Fury/Fury numbers.
Rolls-Royce warned the US and UK civilian Sea Fury owners that they needed to get together and come up with a plan for the oil, but there was a lack on interest to organise anything. No doubt, the view for the US owners was that, they'd just re-engine them with US engines anyway, so there was never going to be a way of getting Shell to make any more in the large quantity that Shell required for another batch to be made.
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