Hawker Typhoon rebuild

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aeropilot

34,663 posts

228 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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Dr Jekyll said:
aeropilot said:
Define substantially?

It's made by Hawker, and it's powered by a Centaurus. Other than that, there's not a lot of similar about the two.
Its like saying a Hurricane is substantially similar to a Spitfire.
No, there's more to it than that. The wings of the Sea Fury are based on the outer section of the Tempest wings and the fuselage is evolved from the Tempest design albeit different in construction.

More like saying the Tempest is substantially similar to a Typhoon. Hawkers hardly ever designed anything from scratch.
But that's exactly what the Fury/Sea Fury was. Designed from scratch, as it was Hawker's first (and only) all monocoque piston fighter.
As you say, the Tempest is substantially similar to the Typhoon, as its an evolution of the Typhoon, with a better and thinner wing.

While the Fury/Sea Fury visually looks similar, its not at all.

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Thursday 5th August 2021
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A bit more news (published on the 2nd August 2021) on the Hawker Typhoon rebuild...

http://warbirdsnews.com/warbird-restorations/hawke...

...with the bulk of the airframe and components now moved to the Aircraft Restoration Company (ARCo) hangar at Duxford, and the rear fuselage (currently at Airframe Assemblies the Isle Of Wight) due to join the rest of it when it's ready.

BryanC

1,107 posts

239 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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Gratuitous thread resurrection for a couple of images of this fantastic Typhoon taken today at Hendon, throwing in a close up of the spinner on the near by Tempest.

hidetheelephants

24,459 posts

194 months

Saturday 1st July 2023
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Sewell Tempest completes ground running trials.

key aero said:
North Weald Heritage Aviation (NWHA) has confirmed that Fighter Aviation’s Mk.II’s (G-TEMT) Bristol Centaurus VI completed five hours of ground running at Sywell in Northamptonshire on June 28.

xeny

4,311 posts

79 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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The Tempest and Typhoon pictures give a good idea just how much thinner the Tempest's wing is.

Yertis

18,060 posts

267 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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Camouflage paint on the exhaust stubs?

Mark V GTD

2,231 posts

125 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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Yes - fibre glass exhaust stubs apparently.

Yertis

18,060 posts

267 months

Thursday 6th July 2023
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frown

I'd always assumed there was a Sabre lurking within.


lufbramatt

5,346 posts

135 months

Thursday 6th July 2023
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Yertis said:
frown

I'd always assumed there was a Sabre lurking within.
Its a bit of as hotch potch of bits- I think the spinner is off something like a Vickers Varsity and the radiator core is a cut up bedford truck radiator core.

However the "painted exhausts" are actually an aerodynamic fairing and there are exhaust stubs underneath. they didn't always have the fairing fitted in WW2 service but you can tell by looking for the teardrop shaped bit aft of the rearmost exhaust.

Yertis

18,060 posts

267 months

Thursday 6th July 2023
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Well I never thumbup

I've nearly finished reading the rather excellent book 'Diver! Diver! Diver!' and it's more than ever a disappointment that so many of these not-so-glamourous aircraft are either extinct or near-extinct. I understand why there was no desire to retain aircraft after the war, but nevertheless it would have been nice if they'd thought "people will need to know about these things in the future" and shoved one of each into a hangar.

Mark V GTD

2,231 posts

125 months

Thursday 6th July 2023
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Any period photos you could kindly point to or post regarding this exhaust fairing please?

lufbramatt

5,346 posts

135 months

Thursday 6th July 2023
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Lots on my pc at work but I’m not sure who owns the copyright (they came from Chris Thomas who is a bit of an expert on the Typhoon) so I don’t want to post on a public forum.

Apparently they were an effort to clean up the Typhoon aerodynamically in about 1943 but they led to cooling issues so were abandoned on later airframes. The shrouds on the Hendon Typhoon are period parts.

I’ll have another look later for pics

FourWheelDrift

88,551 posts

285 months

Thursday 6th July 2023
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Yertis said:
frown

I'd always assumed there was a Sabre lurking within.
Might have to wait for Kermit Week's Tempest Mk. V EJ693 for a Sabre running.

https://www.hawkertempest.se/index.php/survivors/2...


Mark V GTD

2,231 posts

125 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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lufbramatt said:
I’ll have another look later for pics
Thanks - very curious about this as only seen Lancaster type shrouds before which is a semi-circular cover over the whole row of stubs. The Typhoon ones you describe appear to mimic the shape of the individual exhaust stacks - but how do the gasses get out as I cannot see any openings in the RAFM aircraft pictured above?

lufbramatt

5,346 posts

135 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Can just see the engine exhausts peeking out behind the gaps in the fairing:


Yertis

18,060 posts

267 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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I just read of the delivery of the first Tempest to a Spitfire squadron who were converting to the new type. The pilots were nervous about the Tempest's reputation as bit of a handful, until the Tempest was delivered by "a pretty little ATA girl, who powdered her nose and retouched her lipstick before getting out of the cockpit."

biggrin What a time to be alive.

Mark V GTD

2,231 posts

125 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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lufbramatt said:
Can just see the engine exhausts peeking out behind the gaps in the fairing
Very interesting and thanks for posting that.

aeropilot

34,663 posts

228 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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Tempest II MW763, finally made its first post restoration flight this afternoon from Sywell in the capable hands of Pete Kynsey.


ettore

4,133 posts

253 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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Can’t wait to see this - wonderful thing!

tangerine_sedge

4,796 posts

219 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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aeropilot said:
Tempest II MW763, finally made its first post restoration flight this afternoon from Sywell in the capable hands of Pete Kynsey.
Pictures here : LINKY