Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 3)

[DodgyGeezer]

Lost ranger said:

[xeny]

MartG said:

Cropped version used as a book cover

One of the photos is flipped, but I don't know enough about the Harrier to be certain which.

[FourWheelDrift]

The book cover, doesn't that mean they don't have to pay a royalty to the photographer?

[Tony1963]

FourWheelDrift said:

The book cover, doesn't that mean they don't have to pay a royalty to the photographer?

Depends how the image was sold.

[MartG]

Fairey Delta 2 WG777 flying alongside its sibling WG774 which by the time of the photo had been rebuilt as the BAC 221

[some bloke]

A couple of DC3's (I think at least one was a mid-war C47) back in the late 80's. Scanned with a phone app, so not quite the same as the originals.
I had a couple of mates that worked for this air freight co in NZ back then, and hitched a few rides over the space of a week.






One, ZK-BBJ ended up up in Kenya for 20 years, until a couple of years ago:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/127164814/save...

[Eric Mc]

Very few "DC-3"s are actually DC-3s.

Only about 600 genuine DC-3s were built compared to well over 10,000 C-47s and other military variants.

[Baron Greenback]

Darpa 2 new choice of designs to come with size and capacity of a C-17 Globemaster III, got to spend the budget somewhere.

[JeremyH5]

Eric Mc said:

Very few "DC-3"s are actually DC-3s.

Only about 600 genuine DC-3s were built compared to well over 10,000 C-47s and other military variants.

I realised I didn’t know what the differences were between the two and, in case anyone else wants to know, a web search produced the below list:

The C-47 differed from the civilian DC-3 in numerous modifications, including being fitted with a cargo door, hoist attachment, and strengthened floor, along with a shortened tail cone for glider-towing shackles, and an astrodome in the cabin roof.

[BrettMRC]

Baron Greenback said:

Darpa 2 new choice of designs to come with size and capacity of a C-17 Globemaster III, got to spend the budget somewhere.

I'll see if I can knock those up in Simple Planes

[DodgyGeezer]

wasn't the whole Ekranoplan idea more hassle than it was worth - or was it just that the tech wasn't good enough?

[xeny]

Baron Greenback said:

Darpa 2 new choice of designs to come with size and capacity of a C-17 Globemaster III, got to spend the budget somewhere.

Looking at those, the pivot to the pacific looks awfully real :-(

[Teddy Lop]

DodgyGeezer said:

wasn't the whole Ekranoplan idea more hassle than it was worth - or was it just that the tech wasn't good enough?

Seawater and jet engines wasn't an easy marriage but I don't think there was anything fundamentally wrong with the idea except the USSR going bust and no-one else seeming too interested?

On the face of it they would seem to offer a lot in terms of tactical deployment - look at the strife developing the cv-22 - but I guess if you know your adversary has them there's a lot you can do to thrawt deployment.

[DodgyGeezer]

Teddy Lop said:

DodgyGeezer said:

wasn't the whole Ekranoplan idea more hassle than it was worth - or was it just that the tech wasn't good enough?

Seawater and jet engines wasn't an easy marriage but I don't think there was anything fundamentally wrong with the idea except the USSR going bust and no-one else seeming too interested?

On the face of it they would seem to offer a lot in terms of tactical deployment - look at the strife developing the cv-22 - but I guess if you know your adversary has them there's a lot you can do to thrawt deployment.

AIUI rough seas put paid to the concept (or ground, sea?, effect) - or is that just a lack of development?

[xeny]

Lack of size. The bigger you are the smaller the waves are.

[DodgyGeezer]

https://www.thedrive.com/news/last-boeing-747-ever...

[Lost ranger]

[Eric Mc]

JeremyH5 said:

I realised I didn’t know what the differences were between the two and, in case anyone else wants to know, a web search produced the below list:

The C-47 differed from the civilian DC-3 in numerous modifications, including being fitted with a cargo door, hoist attachment, and strengthened floor, along with a shortened tail cone for glider-towing shackles, and an astrodome in the cabin roof.

As a pure airliner, the original DC-3 was more or less finished by 1940. Douglas were already flying the replacement aircraft, the DC-5.



However, America's entry into the war completely killed any demand for brand new airliners so the DC-5 was discontinued after only 12 were built. On the other hand, the basic DC-3 airframe got a new lease of life as the US Army Air Corps needed a large number of transport aircraft in a hurry, and a beefed up version of the DC-3 was ideal.

[some bloke]

I didn't realise so few DC3's were built. I felt very lucky to have clocked up a few hours in a couple of C47s. I flew Wellington - Christchurch return, Wellington - Nelson - Blenheim - Wellington, Wellington - Christchurch one way and Paraparaumu - Auckland one way, at night delivering papers.

[Eric Mc]

600 was a record for an airliner at that time. In the 1920s and 30s, a good production run for an airliner would have been around 100. Some of the aircraft flown by Imperial Airways were built in the tens.