Sea Fury crash - Yeovilton
Discussion
It’s the same aircraft that had a mishap at Culdrose in 2014, the RN tale of the rebuild doesn’t seem hopeful for this time round sadly https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activ...
With the Sea Vixen now grounded for good, (and in all honesty the Sea Hawk as well) and now the T.20 not likely to be rebuilt from that state, I wonder how much appetite there will be to operate the single seat FB.11 VR930 (given they have already lost the original FB.11 and the Firefly)
Otherwise that only leaves the 3 x Swordfish, the Chippie and the Wasp helo.
Otherwise that only leaves the 3 x Swordfish, the Chippie and the Wasp helo.
BrettMRC said:
I was really hoping they might get the Sea Hawk up again, not sure what's required for that, nor the reasons for grounding it in the first place?
Navy Wings haven't said its grounded for good, and there is(was) a proposal plan being formulated to return it to the air, and maybe now with the Vixen rebuild being sadly axed on cost grounds, and now with the loss of the T.20, they may now feel there is the budget to drag the Sea Hawk out of its decade long storage. But with the authorites not agreeing to the T.33 engine swap proposal, and the Nene in the Sea Hawk being the last airworthy example, I'm not convinced that the Sea Hawk will ever get air under its wings again.Saga of the Sea Hawks many issues can be read here....
https://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/seahawk/s...
And no, there's is zero chance of a ex-RN F-4K (or a Buccaneer) ever getting CAA permission - especially now the Navy Wings aircraft are on the civil register and not the military register as they were when MOD owned and operated by the RNHF.
V41LEY said:
Interestingly described as a ‘precautionary landing’. Is that for insurance reasons ?
I doubt it. I've always taken the distinction between a precautionary landing and a forced landing to be that in the former case you still have some choice in the matter, and that you deem it better to get the aircraft on the ground as soon as possible rather than wait until you no longer have any choice, at which point it becomes a forced landing. Of course, electing to go with the former doesn't preclude you ending up in a ball of wreckage, but reduces the probability of it happening. You can of course also end up in a ball of wreckage when attempting a perfectly normal landing.It doesn't have to be a mechanical issue either - I know two people who have had to make precautionary landings because of weather conditions, one of which ended badly, the other not so much. I was a passenger in an R44 which made a precautionary landing when we took a large bird strike right into the rotor head - I remember the front seat occupants both saying "s
t", followed by a resounding thump above my head, which is never good in a helicopter. On the other hand we were on the ground in very short order, with no drama - a fixed wing precautionary landing is invariably going to be a lot more emotional, and probably expensive.Edited by eharding on Thursday 29th April 12:33
BrettMRC said:
Failing that...what are the chances of getting an F4-K signed off by the CAA? 
Precisely zero. The CAA disliked even simple historic jets before Shoreham, doubly so now, and the mind boggling complexity of a Phantom would preclude it being granted permission even if it was subsonic. Supersonic capable is an instant no.
That's also ignoring the ITAR issues with the Americans.
Anyway, desperately sad news about the Sea Fury. Who at RNHF smashed a mirror over a black cat?
https://navywings.org.uk/portfolio/sea-fury-fb11/
Wonder if it will be used as spares for this one?
Updates are here: https://navywings.org.uk/sea-fury-t-20-update/
Thursday 29 April
Firstly, and most importantly, one member of the aircrew has now been released home and the other aircrew member remained in hospital overnight as a precaution and will be released once Doctors are content. Both have been in contact with and seen by Navy Wings staff.
The site has been secured and visited by various agencies and once the AAIB have been on site tomorrow we will look to recover the aircraft. Plans are underway for that recovery.
We will be putting statements out on the website as we move through the various stages of recovery to keep you all informed.
Wonder if it will be used as spares for this one?
Updates are here: https://navywings.org.uk/sea-fury-t-20-update/
Thursday 29 April
Firstly, and most importantly, one member of the aircrew has now been released home and the other aircrew member remained in hospital overnight as a precaution and will be released once Doctors are content. Both have been in contact with and seen by Navy Wings staff.
The site has been secured and visited by various agencies and once the AAIB have been on site tomorrow we will look to recover the aircraft. Plans are underway for that recovery.
We will be putting statements out on the website as we move through the various stages of recovery to keep you all informed.
Edited by BrettMRC on Thursday 29th April 16:04
BrettMRC said:
VR930 hasn't flown since end of 2007 season and I can't now remember why RNHF (as was then) stopped flying it......as it had only been overhauled the year before when they did they also repainted it from its Korean War scheme that it had worn since restored in late 90's by BAe Brough.Having already lost the original FB.11, and now the T.20 (twice through engine issues) there maybe some reluctance to put VR930 back in the air.
BrettMRC said:
She's been flying regularly - upto and including Yeovilton airday 2019 
Yes - this was at Farnborough in July 2018:
3O2A4925 by conradsphotos, on FlickrA few more updates and some pics here:
https://navywings.org.uk/sea-fury-t-20-update/
Tuesday 4 May
The Sea Fury has been recovered to the heritage hangar by the Joint Aircraft Recovery and Transportation Squadron (JARTS) working closely with the Navy Wings team. JARTS were working in the area on a training exercise and provided their expertise and experience to help us recover the aircraft. The aircraft is now secured and we await the next stage of the investigation process to start. Images of the recovery process can be seen below
We are very pleased to confirm that our Sea Fury pilot was discharged from hospital over the weekend and we were delighted to welcome both pilots back to the Navy Wings offices today.
Pics from the link above.
https://navywings.org.uk/sea-fury-t-20-update/
Tuesday 4 May
The Sea Fury has been recovered to the heritage hangar by the Joint Aircraft Recovery and Transportation Squadron (JARTS) working closely with the Navy Wings team. JARTS were working in the area on a training exercise and provided their expertise and experience to help us recover the aircraft. The aircraft is now secured and we await the next stage of the investigation process to start. Images of the recovery process can be seen below
We are very pleased to confirm that our Sea Fury pilot was discharged from hospital over the weekend and we were delighted to welcome both pilots back to the Navy Wings offices today.
Pics from the link above.
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