Guess the aircraft spare

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Mabbs9

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219 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2022
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FunkyNige said:
Does all the measuring get done in that thing or does the air get piped elsewhere? And why are there two connectors? I'm assuming the outer two are the bolts.
The air gets piped to an Air Data Computer or equivalent depending on type. I suspect the OP is better at the detail than I am though.

RobbyJ

1,574 posts

223 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2022
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essayer said:
hope OP is not in China eek
I'd be looking at the price of elevator jack screws in that case!

AndrewGP

1,988 posts

163 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2022
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Shar2 said:
Eric Mc said:
It looks heat discoloured.
That's because they get hot. Really surprisingly hot. They certainly melt the protective boots very quickly, don't ask how I know. hehe
Burnt my hand on one many years back doing a preflight walk round. It properly bloody hurt! Obviously, it shouldn’t have been left on (never assume, check etc) so now I’m super weary of them.

Mave

8,209 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2022
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FunkyNige said:
knight said:
Todays winner biggrin


Does all the measuring get done in that thing or does the air get piped elsewhere? And why are there two connectors? I'm assuming the outer two are the bolts.
I'd guess that one connector is for Total pressure, the other is for Static pressure. The difference between them is used to calculate velocity.

48k

13,145 posts

149 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2022
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AndrewGP said:
Shar2 said:
Eric Mc said:
It looks heat discoloured.
That's because they get hot. Really surprisingly hot. They certainly melt the protective boots very quickly, don't ask how I know. hehe
Burnt my hand on one many years back doing a preflight walk round. It properly bloody hurt! Obviously, it shouldn’t have been left on (never assume, check etc) so now I’m super weary of them.
Isn't that how you confirm they are working on the walkaround? laugh

I've only ever pre-flighted little aircraft and with battery master switched on, by the time I've walked round to check the lights the pitot is luke warm. Wouldn't want to leave it too long before checking though.

Edited by 48k on Tuesday 22 March 16:41

griffdude

1,826 posts

249 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Mave said:
I'd guess that one connector is for Total pressure, the other is for Static pressure. The difference between them is used to calculate velocity.
The static ports are separate to these & flat to the surface. Usually unpainted too.

Mave

8,209 posts

216 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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griffdude said:
Mave said:
I'd guess that one connector is for Total pressure, the other is for Static pressure. The difference between them is used to calculate velocity.
The static ports are separate to these & flat to the surface. Usually unpainted too.
Fair enough, I assumed the static ports were on the side of the probe under the red cover.
any idea why it's got 2 connections?

dr_gn

16,171 posts

185 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Mave said:
griffdude said:
Mave said:
I'd guess that one connector is for Total pressure, the other is for Static pressure. The difference between them is used to calculate velocity.
The static ports are separate to these & flat to the surface. Usually unpainted too.
Fair enough, I assumed the static ports were on the side of the probe under the red cover.
any idea why it's got 2 connections?
One for pressure, the other for electrical heating I assume.

ndtman

745 posts

182 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Eric Mc said:
It looks heat discoloured.
It certainly does. Needs about 500⁰ C to blue titanium.
Can't make out from the photos if there is or isn't a weld there.

IanH755

1,865 posts

121 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Most "fast" aircraft (200kts+ civil and military) will have pitot probes which heat to 250'c+ and will hit 100'c in a few seconds from switch on which requires a large current draw on the electrical system which can drain the 28v battery quite quickly so newer designs are limited to weight off wheels operation only as by that stage the aircrafts generator/s should be on.

The probes fitted to slower civil prop aircraft (Cessea 172 types) may hit similar temps but take a longer time.

Mave

8,209 posts

216 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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dr_gn said:
Mave said:
griffdude said:
Mave said:
I'd guess that one connector is for Total pressure, the other is for Static pressure. The difference between them is used to calculate velocity.
The static ports are separate to these & flat to the surface. Usually unpainted too.
Fair enough, I assumed the static ports were on the side of the probe under the red cover.
any idea why it's got 2 connections?
One for pressure, the other for electrical heating I assume.
Ah yes, that makes sense.

IanH755

1,865 posts

121 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Mave said:
dr_gn said:
Mave said:
griffdude said:
Mave said:
I'd guess that one connector is for Total pressure, the other is for Static pressure. The difference between them is used to calculate velocity.
The static ports are separate to these & flat to the surface. Usually unpainted too.
Fair enough, I assumed the static ports were on the side of the probe under the red cover.
any idea why it's got 2 connections?
One for pressure, the other for electrical heating I assume.
Ah yes, that makes sense.
Yeap, the 2nd red blank from the Left is covering the electrical power connector, the taller domed red cover on it's right is the Pitot pipe connection for the hose which goes off to the Air Data Computer and whatever cockpit gauges are being used (ASI/CSI/Mach meter). The hoses go brittle with age and leak and it's a proper git to trackdown all the various minor leaks you find on older aircraft.

The newer versions of the Pitot/Static probes have the ADC built into the probe itself so you don't need the hoses any more (no more leaks) as it's a purely electrical signal output to new digital cockpit gauges and whatever Flight Control Computer you're running.

Oilchange

8,474 posts

261 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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IanH755 said:
Most "fast" aircraft (200kts+ civil and military) will have pitot probes which heat to 250'c+ and will hit 100'c in a few seconds from switch on which requires a large current draw on the electrical system which can drain the 28v battery quite quickly so newer designs are limited to weight off wheels operation only as by that stage the aircrafts generator/s should be on.

The probes fitted to slower civil prop aircraft (Cessea 172 types) may hit similar temps but take a longer time.
Weight off wheels? Sounds like an icing problem waiting to happen...
What do I know though.

knight

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5,207 posts

280 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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IanH755 said:
Yeap, the 2nd red blank from the Left is covering the electrical power connector, the taller domed red cover on it's right is the Pitot pipe connection for the hose which goes off to the Air Data Computer and whatever cockpit gauges are being used (ASI/CSI/Mach meter). The hoses go brittle with age and leak and it's a proper git to trackdown all the various minor leaks you find on older aircraft.

The newer versions of the Pitot/Static probes have the ADC built into the probe itself so you don't need the hoses any more (no more leaks) as it's a purely electrical signal output to new digital cockpit gauges and whatever Flight Control Computer you're running.
Got it in one smile these are not repairable so this is a brand new item. When I’m back at work I could probably find a photo of a U/S one and you will be able to see the burning on the tip of the probe

knight

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5,207 posts

280 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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And no, I’m not in China, West Sussex to be precise biggrin

normalbloke

7,463 posts

220 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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We still haven’t had the rrp yet!

IanH755

1,865 posts

121 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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normalbloke said:
We still haven’t had the rrp yet!
It's model number 0851HL if you want to check on eBay smile

knight

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5,207 posts

280 months

Thursday 24th March 2022
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IanH755 said:
It's model number 0851HL if you want to check on eBay smile
This one is 0851MC smile

Burrow01

1,813 posts

193 months

Thursday 24th March 2022
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knight said:
IanH755 said:
It's model number 0851HL if you want to check on eBay smile
This one is 0851MC smile
Yes but it is compatible with 0851HL :-)

https://www.proponent.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/...

knight

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5,207 posts

280 months

Thursday 24th March 2022
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Burrow01 said:
Yes but it is compatible with 0851HL :-)

https://www.proponent.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/...
I hope so as this was a direct replacement from the OEM biggrin