Bill's boating paradox...
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If it helps, this is the layout of my 7.5. You can load up with guests but in reality, the bow is not an ideal place to travel at speed, much better used for lunch when moored up! (and before anyone pipes up, yes we always wear life vests when on the move!)
As well as the silly seat, you get two helms plus a triple bench.
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Loads of other seating options out there to look at. Enjoy the search.
As well as the silly seat, you get two helms plus a triple bench.
[url]|https://thumbsnap.com/zPGoN7PH[/url]Loads of other seating options out there to look at. Enjoy the search.
Think it makes more sense to do your course & speak at length with your instructors & then hopefully you'll have more of an idea what's practical & safe for your use.
9 people is a lot.
Boat manufacturers usually have a maximum recommended load - in the case of my Dory the manufacturer's plate includes '8 persons of 150lbs each'.
Can it seat 8? Yes. Would I consider that safe for other than a quick trip round the bay on a very calm day? No
If nothing else on an open boat you'll need them all to have appropriate clothing & a lifejacket each.
Conditions at sea can change very quickly & if you intend to go somewhere you must consider that you need to get back & it's all too easy to get caught out.
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9 people is a lot.
Boat manufacturers usually have a maximum recommended load - in the case of my Dory the manufacturer's plate includes '8 persons of 150lbs each'.
Can it seat 8? Yes. Would I consider that safe for other than a quick trip round the bay on a very calm day? No
If nothing else on an open boat you'll need them all to have appropriate clothing & a lifejacket each.
Conditions at sea can change very quickly & if you intend to go somewhere you must consider that you need to get back & it's all too easy to get caught out.
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Sorry...
A)Moon on a stick because I don't yet know what's realistic.
B) Not being clear. I want to be able to take 5 and go places, but able to have a few more in to potter about. Assume we'll leave people on the beach while playing.
ETA booked on a course locally based on the recommendation of a guy we've used for waterskiing.
A)Moon on a stick because I don't yet know what's realistic.
B) Not being clear. I want to be able to take 5 and go places, but able to have a few more in to potter about. Assume we'll leave people on the beach while playing.
ETA booked on a course locally based on the recommendation of a guy we've used for waterskiing.
Bill said:
Sorry...
A)Moon on a stick because I don't yet know what's realistic.
Understandable, and we have tried to guide you.
B) Not being clear. I want to be able to take 5 and go places, but able to have a few more in to potter about. Assume we'll leave people on the beach while playing.
Even 5 persons onboard a 6+ metre RIB is a challenge to 'go places' in open water (ie the Channel) and when you consider whizzing off from Swanage harbour to the Solent in flat calm conditions, maybe rough on the return journey, then more research is needed?
ETA booked on a course locally based on the recommendation of a guy we've used for waterskiing.
A waterskiing instructor may not be the best to give advice for what you're planning, however, anyone who spends time on the water, whether in sheltered conditions suitable for waterskiing or not, should help you build some experience and knowledge of what skills are needed to keep you and your crew safe.
HTH?A)Moon on a stick because I don't yet know what's realistic.
Understandable, and we have tried to guide you.
B) Not being clear. I want to be able to take 5 and go places, but able to have a few more in to potter about. Assume we'll leave people on the beach while playing.
Even 5 persons onboard a 6+ metre RIB is a challenge to 'go places' in open water (ie the Channel) and when you consider whizzing off from Swanage harbour to the Solent in flat calm conditions, maybe rough on the return journey, then more research is needed?
ETA booked on a course locally based on the recommendation of a guy we've used for waterskiing.
A waterskiing instructor may not be the best to give advice for what you're planning, however, anyone who spends time on the water, whether in sheltered conditions suitable for waterskiing or not, should help you build some experience and knowledge of what skills are needed to keep you and your crew safe.
Bill said:
Thank you, I do appreciate the advice and am trying to take it on board.
That'll be tricky without a boat!You won't really know how you'll use it until you have it. But you have to start somewhere; you can always buy what you think is best now, then get something else after a year or two when you've had some hands-on time.
For reference, my boat (28ft) is classified as Cat C with 8 people and a Cat B with 7.
The PB2 course is a good starting point and will definitely give a bit more insight into the world of boating. I’d also spend a bit of time on sales pontoons if I were you, checking out the different styles and sizes of boats as looking online can be very different to seeing in person and the sales guys have a good breadth of knowledge.
The PB2 course is a good starting point and will definitely give a bit more insight into the world of boating. I’d also spend a bit of time on sales pontoons if I were you, checking out the different styles and sizes of boats as looking online can be very different to seeing in person and the sales guys have a good breadth of knowledge.
Yeah, that's a great idea.
Bill - you can see even through the small subset of boaters here what a wide variety of boats we all have. The overriding thing is we all love being on the water - but what that means to each of us is something quite different.
PB2 is a good course and it's likely the boat you do the course in will be a rib similar to the pic ^ above, so it'll be great experience for you.
Bill - you can see even through the small subset of boaters here what a wide variety of boats we all have. The overriding thing is we all love being on the water - but what that means to each of us is something quite different.
PB2 is a good course and it's likely the boat you do the course in will be a rib similar to the pic ^ above, so it'll be great experience for you.
Arnold Cunningham said:
Love both Swanage and Studland Bay, used to have our summer holidays there on my parents yacht when I was a lad.
Me too.Disappointing the traditional anchorage at the western end of Studland Bay has been made a no go zone to allegedly preserve the seagrass beds though.
IIRC there was a proposal mentioned during the process to lay mooring buoys on extending risers that didn't impact the seabed in the same way that anchors do but as far as I know that never happened. I do wonder if all the marinas in Poole harbour has some influence in the decision in the hope more visitors would come their way rather than anchoring for free in the bay.
Yeah, that used to be our traditional mooring spot on my fathers yacht when I was a lad.
Including one time with a stiff onshore breeze when the anchor fouled in the seagrass and dragged. We woke up to feel the keels bouncing on the beach.
Was a laugh though having the boat on the beach that day, which turned out to be lovely & sunny. Plus, giving it some beans to get off the beach meant it carved out a "pool" on the beach at low water - which me & all the other kids enjoyed playing in the following day.
And swanage is also the only place I've ever caught any fish - managed to catch loads of Wrasse there one time.
Happy days.
My wife's uncle has one of the beach huts there which we borrow occasionally. Still a lovely beach to visit
Including one time with a stiff onshore breeze when the anchor fouled in the seagrass and dragged. We woke up to feel the keels bouncing on the beach.
Was a laugh though having the boat on the beach that day, which turned out to be lovely & sunny. Plus, giving it some beans to get off the beach meant it carved out a "pool" on the beach at low water - which me & all the other kids enjoyed playing in the following day.
And swanage is also the only place I've ever caught any fish - managed to catch loads of Wrasse there one time.
Happy days.
My wife's uncle has one of the beach huts there which we borrow occasionally. Still a lovely beach to visit
Jaguar steve said:
I do wonder if all the marinas in Poole harbour has some influence in the decision in the hope more visitors would come their way rather than anchoring for free in the bay.
I suspect most visitors have only come from Poole anyway. 
It gets utterly mobbed on a nice sunny day. (Which seems to me to be the days you don't really need the protection the bay affords.)ETA I do get that overnight things can change so you want protection, but the vast majority are day visitors who only anchor up that end as it's more of a sun trap.
LFB531 said:
A true PH solution - one of these would solve the cabin and launching issues. Might stretch the budget though!
I've spent some time on one of these, a quite remarkable machine.
Reliant Robin rib cuddy? Interesting!I've spent some time on one of these, a quite remarkable machine.
We're looking at a cuddy now. We just want to flit around the coast from bay to bay and up the rivers around the coast, visiting the beaches dotted along the rivers and coves. We figure the cuddy is necessary to give that little bit of privacy when changing, and to store a few things for the day trips.
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