Reno AIr Races - last ever 2023
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Simpo Two said:
Note that airshows get zero TV coverage (unless there's an accident, in which case the media make it headline news). That can't help the popularity/attendance.
When was a UK airshow last broadcast live?
BBC used to do a highlights show of RIAT back in the late 80's, but I can't really recall anything since those days?When was a UK airshow last broadcast live?
The world has moved on, and like so many other things many of us once took for granted, airshows are increasingly becoming part of the 'past' rather than the 'future'.
aeropilot said:
Simpo Two said:
Note that airshows get zero TV coverage (unless there's an accident, in which case the media make it headline news). That can't help the popularity/attendance.
When was a UK airshow last broadcast live?
BBC used to do a highlights show of RIAT back in the late 80's, but I can't really recall anything since those days?When was a UK airshow last broadcast live?
The world has moved on, and like so many other things many of us once took for granted, airshows are increasingly becoming part of the 'past' rather than the 'future'.
During Farnborough Airshow week, BBC used to have a nightly update that ran for about half an hour each evening. They would then have at least an hour long summary presentation on the Sunday- all hosted by Raymond Baxter of course. Very similar to the way they cover the Chelsea Flower Show today.
In 1983 BBC showed a number of Airshow highlights programmes featuring St Athan , Biggin Hill and Greenham Common.
In 1984 they covered the Farnborough show as described above as well as that year’s Mildenhall Air Fete.
ITV (usually TVS) also covered a few Airshows in the late 80s.
In 1983 BBC showed a number of Airshow highlights programmes featuring St Athan , Biggin Hill and Greenham Common.
In 1984 they covered the Farnborough show as described above as well as that year’s Mildenhall Air Fete.
ITV (usually TVS) also covered a few Airshows in the late 80s.
Eric Mc said:
During Farnborough Airshow week, BBC used to have a nightly update that ran for about half an hour each evening. They would then have at least an hour long summary presentation on the Sunday- all hosted by Raymond Baxter of course. Very similar to the way they cover the Chelsea Flower Show today.
In 1983 BBC showed a number of Airshow highlights programmes featuring St Athan , Biggin Hill and Greenham Common.
In 1984 they covered the Farnborough show as described above as well as that year’s Mildenhall Air Fete.
ITV (usually TVS) also covered a few Airshows in the late 80s.
And now the BBC has a relatively tiny budget, and the likes of Red Bull swamp YouTube with their own brand of content. In 1983 BBC showed a number of Airshow highlights programmes featuring St Athan , Biggin Hill and Greenham Common.
In 1984 they covered the Farnborough show as described above as well as that year’s Mildenhall Air Fete.
ITV (usually TVS) also covered a few Airshows in the late 80s.
You’d have a shouty presenter reducing everything to the intelligence level of an amoeba. It would appeal to those with a five minute attention span.
I think a big factor in the BBC’s interest in air shows was the fact that so many of the technicians and presenters who worked in the BBC from the early 1850s to the end of the 70s had all either served during World War 2 or had done National Service. They were genuinely interested in aviation.
Tony1963 said:
And now the BBC has a relatively tiny budget, and the likes of Red Bull swamp YouTube with their own brand of content.
You’d have a shouty presenter reducing everything to the intelligence level of an amoeba. It would appeal to those with a five minute attention span.
They have enough to pay freelance Gary and to fund series about Begum.You’d have a shouty presenter reducing everything to the intelligence level of an amoeba. It would appeal to those with a five minute attention span.
Exactly.
Airshows are sen as a risk, something off the beaten track now.
Can you imagine them covering one of the Brunters cold jets days when you were only about 100 ft away from a sodding Lightning on full burner, only a few years ago, they would have probably written to MP's themselves!! Nimby wastes of space.
BBC and mainly white people watching something they love, well off the radar sorry.
Airshows are sen as a risk, something off the beaten track now.
Can you imagine them covering one of the Brunters cold jets days when you were only about 100 ft away from a sodding Lightning on full burner, only a few years ago, they would have probably written to MP's themselves!! Nimby wastes of space.
BBC and mainly white people watching something they love, well off the radar sorry.
The Hypno-Toad said:
Maybe one of you guys has got a better memory than me but I seem to recall that the Reno Air Races came up a couple of times on ITVs World Of Sport as one of their 'wacky sports from America' back in the day?
Or did I just dream it?
A reference hereOr did I just dream it?
https://www.key.aero/forum/historic-aviation/93449...
Tony1963 said:
Ah! the dulcet tones of Raymond BaxterBrilliant
ShortBeardy said:
As a very young kid I went to Abingdon with my Dad and stood on the grass behind the single strand of rope as a Lightning came down the runway. It would have been late 60s. It flew just off the deck and marginally supersonic. It made a lasting impression.
Yep, I’ve had people tell me I didn’t see such things. But, school trip to Bassingbourn in about 1979 or 79, armed forces careers event, cloudless summer skies, and the same as you, Lightning, ultra low, and that huge bang just as it passed.. and I’m sure there was a Starfighter too. And I don’t believe this… two F-35s have just flown over Wattisham airfield, nothing on my app! Brilliant.
Eric Mc said:
During Farnborough Airshow week, BBC used to have a nightly update that ran for about half an hour each evening. They would then have at least an hour long summary presentation on the Sunday- all hosted by Raymond Baxter of course. Very similar to the way they cover the Chelsea Flower Show today.
In 1983 BBC showed a number of Airshow highlights programmes featuring St Athan , Biggin Hill and Greenham Common.
In 1984 they covered the Farnborough show as described above as well as that year’s Mildenhall Air Fete.
ITV (usually TVS) also covered a few Airshows in the late 80s.
We had to prep a Hawk trainer with a camera in the rear gunsight position for the '84 Farnborough show. The idea was that it would film Raymond Baxter doing a bit to camera about 'G' and G suits etc.In 1983 BBC showed a number of Airshow highlights programmes featuring St Athan , Biggin Hill and Greenham Common.
In 1984 they covered the Farnborough show as described above as well as that year’s Mildenhall Air Fete.
ITV (usually TVS) also covered a few Airshows in the late 80s.
During a test flight the week before the camera stopped working. It turned out the guts had bent/distorted due to the high G that had been pulled. I think after that the flight was limited to something like 5G.
I can still remember a rather breathless Raymond Baxter doing his bit to camera as the G suit cut in and out.
eccles said:
We had to prep a Hawk trainer with a camera in the rear gunsight position for the '84 Farnborough show. The idea was that it would film Raymond Baxter doing a bit to camera about 'G' and G suits etc.
During a test flight the week before the camera stopped working. It turned out the guts had bent/distorted due to the high G that had been pulled. I think after that the flight was limited to something like 5G.
I can still remember a rather breathless Raymond Baxter doing his bit to camera as the G suit cut in and out.
Hardly surprising considering Raymond Baxter would have been 62 at the time.During a test flight the week before the camera stopped working. It turned out the guts had bent/distorted due to the high G that had been pulled. I think after that the flight was limited to something like 5G.
I can still remember a rather breathless Raymond Baxter doing his bit to camera as the G suit cut in and out.
GliderRider said:
eccles said:
We had to prep a Hawk trainer with a camera in the rear gunsight position for the '84 Farnborough show. The idea was that it would film Raymond Baxter doing a bit to camera about 'G' and G suits etc.
During a test flight the week before the camera stopped working. It turned out the guts had bent/distorted due to the high G that had been pulled. I think after that the flight was limited to something like 5G.
I can still remember a rather breathless Raymond Baxter doing his bit to camera as the G suit cut in and out.
Hardly surprising considering Raymond Baxter would have been 62 at the time.During a test flight the week before the camera stopped working. It turned out the guts had bent/distorted due to the high G that had been pulled. I think after that the flight was limited to something like 5G.
I can still remember a rather breathless Raymond Baxter doing his bit to camera as the G suit cut in and out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Baxter
Tony1963 said:
ShortBeardy said:
As a very young kid I went to Abingdon with my Dad and stood on the grass behind the single strand of rope as a Lightning came down the runway. It would have been late 60s. It flew just off the deck and marginally supersonic. It made a lasting impression.
Yep, I’ve had people tell me I didn’t see such things. But, school trip to Bassingbourn in about 1979 or 79, armed forces careers event, cloudless summer skies, and the same as you, Lightning, ultra low, and that huge bang just as it passed.. and I’m sure there was a Starfighter too. And I don’t believe this… two F-35s have just flown over Wattisham airfield, nothing on my app! Brilliant.
F-35's not showing in the app - Stealth Tony!!
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