Plane Landed short at Heathrow

Plane Landed short at Heathrow

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Big Rod

6,204 posts

217 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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I reckon it's run out of fuel.

The pilot's either done really well to get it so close to the mark if those were the circumstances or he's been a pillock and not put enough kerosene in the thing.

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

248 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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TIGA84 said:
Andy Zarse said:
Crikey, that's terrible. I can only hope my ex-wife was on board.
rofl


Well she flys long haul on the 777. One can only live in hope.

glazbagun

14,294 posts

198 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Eric Mc said:
It does seem he was desparate to get the plane down quickly, so it looks like he had some sort of inflight emergency. I reckon he was starting to lose control and just about got it down before all control was lost. It certainly was a heavy landing as it looks like the port undercarriage has ben driven right through the wing.
I was thinking it was a little unusual, anyway. Normally pilots just overshoot the runway when theyre screwing it up, or land heavily & bounce. Glad he wasnt trying it in LCY (OK, not in a 777 biggrin )

ETA: is it a direct flight from China, or did it make a stop on the way?

Edited by glazbagun on Thursday 17th January 13:47

Oakey

27,607 posts

217 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Big Rod said:
I reckon it's run out of fuel.

The pilot's either done really well to get it so close to the mark if those were the circumstances or he's been a pillock and not put enough kerosene in the thing.
Do pilots fill these things up themselves then?

smilerbaker

4,071 posts

216 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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HTF did they miss gorden, idiots

blueyes

4,799 posts

253 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Oakey said:
Big Rod said:
I reckon it's run out of fuel.

The pilot's either done really well to get it so close to the mark if those were the circumstances or he's been a pillock and not put enough kerosene in the thing.
Do pilots fill these things up themselves then?
Of course! It's the only way you can guarantee getting your nectar points.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Oakey said:
Big Rod said:
I reckon it's run out of fuel.

The pilot's either done really well to get it so close to the mark if those were the circumstances or he's been a pillock and not put enough kerosene in the thing.
Do pilots fill these things up themselves then?
yesIt's a pain in the arse really, the wings get in the way so you have to reverse it up to the pumpirked

kiwisr

9,335 posts

208 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Fuel is doubtful IMO, plenty of alternates on the route from Beijing and if he'd carried on knowingly that there wasn't that much fuel on board then he and BA are criminally neglectful.

Famous Graham

26,553 posts

226 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Yeah, sat on my plane. Cant even get pished as i drove to edin airport this week :/
no pics i'm afraid - cant see owt from here. Just going by what the pilot's telling us.

Puggit

48,526 posts

249 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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BBC reporter in Feltham saw it banking sharply before coming down.

Big Rod

6,204 posts

217 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Oakey said:
Big Rod said:
I reckon it's run out of fuel.

The pilot's either done really well to get it so close to the mark if those were the circumstances or he's been a pillock and not put enough kerosene in the thing.
Do pilots fill these things up themselves then?
Yeah, they make sure they get their Nectar points as well as air miles!!

They do have the responsibility of determining how much fuel they'll need depending on their flightpath and conditions and I remember reading a story about a Laker, (I think!!), pilot who had to pay for the fuel himself off his credit card as the company had no credit with the vendors once.

Edited by Big Rod on Thursday 17th January 13:51

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

251 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Long time on the plane then buddy! Leave the car at the airport and get some booze down you biggrin

glazbagun

14,294 posts

198 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Oakey said:
Big Rod said:
I reckon it's run out of fuel.

The pilot's either done really well to get it so close to the mark if those were the circumstances or he's been a pillock and not put enough kerosene in the thing.
Do pilots fill these things up themselves then?
They're responsible for ordering the fuel, and planes have pretty accurate gauges. But it wouldnt be the first time a fuellers screwed up. I've seen a few planes overfueled in the past- but they dont get to take off for exactly that reason.

fflyingdog

621 posts

240 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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To me it looks likely the aircraft was on the glide slope and lost power maybe its flight control computers failed or (much more likely) it was the First Officers "landing" and he/she retarded the throttles a little early causing the aircraft to slow/drop before the runway threshold and not enough time was left for the engines to spool back up.........i expect the Captain gave them a good cuff around the ear when they stopped.You can see where the gear hit the grass and caused a couple trenches pretty much confirming that the aircraft was on course just a tadge low,damage seems contained to gear and engines the main fuselage looks pretty well intact ,wing didn"t detach just looked that way from the camera angle.The one time the hostees earned their money,and everyone had really wished they had paid attention to the safety brief.

Edited by fflyingdog on Thursday 17th January 13:58

iamlofi

2,196 posts

205 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Big rod . . one of my mrs's planes had to make an unscheduled stop at an air port where they had no agreement with the vendor of fuel . . they have a company card they just stick it on

toomuchbeer

877 posts

209 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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iamlofi said:
Big rod . . one of my mrs's planes had to make an unscheduled stop at an air port where they had no agreement with the vendor of fuel . . they have a company card they just stick it on
Jesus, can you imagine the bill for filling one of those up.......

HOW MUCH...yikes

Big Rod

6,204 posts

217 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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iamlofi said:
Big rod . . one of my mrs's planes had to make an unscheduled stop at an air port where they had no agreement with the vendor of fuel . . they have a company card they just stick it on
Maybe that was it, but I was sure in that case it was because the airline had no money.

Meh!

Still the pilot's responsibility though.

kiwisr

9,335 posts

208 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Apparently passengers were warned of this well in advance, so was a 'planned' emergency landing, I would be buying lottery tickets if I were them, this could have been a disaster.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviat...


Edited by kiwisr on Thursday 17th January 13:55

Timberwolf

5,348 posts

219 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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glazbagun said:
I hate the news when stuff like this happens. Anything that can be summed up in a sentence (like most accidents/disasters), and 24HR news channels will spend hours repeating the same sentence, with the dumbest commentary possible.
speedchick said:
Listening to the witness on the M4 (?) that BBC were interviewing... he heard it crash, heard the pilot switch off the thrust reversers and then it turned 90 degrees.
Starting already?

Probably be like that coach crash a while back; by the time we get to the evening news "eyewitness reports" will tell us that the pilot was fighting terrorist alligators in the cockpit using plastic spoons from the inflight meal, it was approaching the runway upside-down and going backwards at nine hundred miles per hour, the engines were on fire and it just fell out of the sky as it crossed the perimeter fence, probably due to climate change preventing the air from generating any lift.

Then when people start pointing out that none of these things are actually possible, let alone likely, they'll quietly drop it and drag up some 11 year-old story again.

Puggit

48,526 posts

249 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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kiwisr said:
Apparently passengers were warned of this well in advance, so was a 'planned' emergency landing, I would be buying lottery tickets if I were them, this could have been a disaster.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviat...


Edited by kiwisr on Thursday 17th January 13:55
Witness on the plane on Radio 5 said he was totally unaware.