How to escape a Police Helicopter
Discussion
BOR said:
OK, various tunnel scenarios. Assuming you have pre-planned this:
1.Enter tunnel.Stop.Switch to another car you dumped earlier. Drive out.
or
2.Enter tunnel.Stop.Change direction 180degrees. Drive out, in opposite direction at normal speed limit.
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3.Mini-Cooper with Union Jack paint job on roof. Enter tunnel, stop, rip off vynyl decoy flag. Carry on.
These are more successful if lots of other cars travelling through tunnel at same time, either members-of-public, or your stooges.
I think that should read:1.Enter tunnel.Stop.Switch to another car you dumped earlier. Drive out.
or
2.Enter tunnel.Stop.Change direction 180degrees. Drive out, in opposite direction at normal speed limit.
or
3.Mini-Cooper with Union Jack paint job on roof. Enter tunnel, stop, rip off vynyl decoy flag. Carry on.
These are more successful if lots of other cars travelling through tunnel at same time, either members-of-public, or your stooges.
1.Enter tunnel.Stop.Get surrounded by ground units, then arrested.
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2.Enter tunnel.Stop.Change direction 180degrees.Get surrounded by ground units, then arrested.
3.Mini-Cooper with Union Jack paint job on roof. Enter tunnel, stop,Get surrounded by ground units, then arrested.
All these Oceans11 scenarios assume the helicopter is working alone. Which they don't.
And as for t
ts with lay-zerrs. There is a more satisfying form of payback..... Send a threeship of medium lift tandem-rotor helicopters at low-level over the miscreant's house around 3am every day for a week (or two)Report a robbery at a bank/target every day at the same time for about a week before hand, sometimes at moe that one location at once, at opposite sides of the city/town.
Wait and measure response times.
I suspect the after about the 10th false alarm the response times will loose their sence of urgency and enthusiasm.
Then do the job.
Initial getaway should be on a large supermoto type bike, able to dodge traffic, use alley ways etc. then leave in a MSCP and switch to another bike, parked in another car park or at least on a different floor.
This should be done ASAP before the chopper can be anywhere close to you.
drive that bike to another car park, once you are happy that ther is no one in persuit and leave it there switching to car.
Drive to railway station get train to next major city and make a purchase using your credit card then make your way home at your leisure.
The credit card purchase would provide some proof that you were shopping elsewhere for at least some part of the day in question.
Wait and measure response times.
I suspect the after about the 10th false alarm the response times will loose their sence of urgency and enthusiasm.
Then do the job.
Initial getaway should be on a large supermoto type bike, able to dodge traffic, use alley ways etc. then leave in a MSCP and switch to another bike, parked in another car park or at least on a different floor.
This should be done ASAP before the chopper can be anywhere close to you.
drive that bike to another car park, once you are happy that ther is no one in persuit and leave it there switching to car.
Drive to railway station get train to next major city and make a purchase using your credit card then make your way home at your leisure.
The credit card purchase would provide some proof that you were shopping elsewhere for at least some part of the day in question.
I have not read the whole of this thread, because I don't want to read the ins and outs of laser pointers, but I just wanted to add that it IS possible to outrun a police helicopter, but you have to have the right car, the right road, the right driver and the right luck.
I did!
1. Autoroute south of Paris.
2. Sunday morning.
3. Lamborghini Diablo 6.0
4. An owner who did not want to get caught.
5. Full tank of fuel.
That is all I am saying.
Cheers,
Ruttboy.
I did!
1. Autoroute south of Paris.
2. Sunday morning.
3. Lamborghini Diablo 6.0
4. An owner who did not want to get caught.
5. Full tank of fuel.
That is all I am saying.
Cheers,
Ruttboy.
darren9 said:
R5GTTGaz said:
Our copper chopper is parked at the end on the runway at Humberside Airport which is conveniently placed at the side of the road. I'd have the chopper vandalised before the job kicked off.
oh you would, would you Gaz? interesting. It does beg the question though, why so many police forces choose to operate helicopters from patently unsecure locations.
(allegidly)Disguise is also a big part of the job. Robbers have to wear padded up clothes and that rubbery face mask type stuff so loved of the Horror industry.
Robbery --> Chase/helicopter --> shopping centre multistorey --> back of a blacked out Voyager or the like --> Peel off face, padding free clothes change cars and then leave as Mr Joe Publics. Transfer contriband to other cars (multiple) and leave. (Silver Focus (as said before) or blue 3 poverty spec older car ideal )
Trick is to stay calm, be confident.
Robbery --> Chase/helicopter --> shopping centre multistorey --> back of a blacked out Voyager or the like --> Peel off face, padding free clothes change cars and then leave as Mr Joe Publics. Transfer contriband to other cars (multiple) and leave. (Silver Focus (as said before) or blue 3 poverty spec older car ideal )
Trick is to stay calm, be confident.
eharding said:
darren9 said:
R5GTTGaz said:
Our copper chopper is parked at the end on the runway at Humberside Airport which is conveniently placed at the side of the road. I'd have the chopper vandalised before the job kicked off.
oh you would, would you Gaz? interesting. It does beg the question though, why so many police forces choose to operate helicopters from patently unsecure locations.
...No, really!
Take a wooden board.
Place about 50 hand grenades on the board. Put nails in the board in a pattern that holds the grenades in position, but also holds the spoon’s of the grenades in position, even if the pins are pulled.
Dig hole in ground. This should be conical in shape. Pack hole with explosive, positioning detonator at bottom of cone. Sides should be 45⁰ and about 2’6” deep. Don’t fill hole with explosive, but leave about 9” at the top. This is back filled with dirt. Run the wires to a safe location, or rig a wireless trigger. You aren’t trying to break the grenades. You are just getting them airborne.
Place the board on top of the hole and add the grenades. Pull the pins on the grenades. The nails hold the spoons down and prevent the grenades from exploding.
When the helicopter flies overhead, detonate the buried charge. This launches the board into the air. As the board flies, the grenades separate from the board and the spoons fly off. The grenade fuses burn down and the grenades detonate. Some grenades will simply hit the helicopter in the rotors and break them. The others will explode and the shrapnel hit the helicopter. Some will hit the helicopter with enough force to penetrate. A grenade going off inside the helicopter will generally get the job done.
If you don’t know where to buy a grenade, then grenades are a doddle to make, as are the explosives and detonators to fill and launch them. The IRA used to make them out of plumbing joints for the metal work, plus a bit of welding/turning. You want two 4” to 1” reduction joints, a 4” jointing thread ring and two 1” plugs. The rest you weld from scrap.
As how to make explosives always upsets the Mods, I won’t upset them. You just need to lure the helicopter into your killing zone.
Place about 50 hand grenades on the board. Put nails in the board in a pattern that holds the grenades in position, but also holds the spoon’s of the grenades in position, even if the pins are pulled.
Dig hole in ground. This should be conical in shape. Pack hole with explosive, positioning detonator at bottom of cone. Sides should be 45⁰ and about 2’6” deep. Don’t fill hole with explosive, but leave about 9” at the top. This is back filled with dirt. Run the wires to a safe location, or rig a wireless trigger. You aren’t trying to break the grenades. You are just getting them airborne.
Place the board on top of the hole and add the grenades. Pull the pins on the grenades. The nails hold the spoons down and prevent the grenades from exploding.
When the helicopter flies overhead, detonate the buried charge. This launches the board into the air. As the board flies, the grenades separate from the board and the spoons fly off. The grenade fuses burn down and the grenades detonate. Some grenades will simply hit the helicopter in the rotors and break them. The others will explode and the shrapnel hit the helicopter. Some will hit the helicopter with enough force to penetrate. A grenade going off inside the helicopter will generally get the job done.
If you don’t know where to buy a grenade, then grenades are a doddle to make, as are the explosives and detonators to fill and launch them. The IRA used to make them out of plumbing joints for the metal work, plus a bit of welding/turning. You want two 4” to 1” reduction joints, a 4” jointing thread ring and two 1” plugs. The rest you weld from scrap.
As how to make explosives always upsets the Mods, I won’t upset them. You just need to lure the helicopter into your killing zone.
Uncle Fester said:
When the helicopter flies overhead, detonate the buried charge.
Errrr.......all this lengthy preparation assumes the aircraft will fly precisely where you want it to? The only predictable/guaranteed routes are short finals to where it lands, and if you know that and can get close enough to do the covert landscape gardening, why not just take the grenades and toss them in the chopper?ruttboy said:
I have not read the whole of this thread, because I don't want to read the ins and outs of laser pointers, but I just wanted to add that it IS possible to outrun a police helicopter, but you have to have the right car, the right road, the right driver and the right luck.
I did!
1. Autoroute south of Paris.
2. Sunday morning.
3. Lamborghini Diablo 6.0
4. An owner who did not want to get caught.
5. Full tank of fuel.
That is all I am saying.
Cheers,
Ruttboy.
6. An X-Box 360I did!
1. Autoroute south of Paris.
2. Sunday morning.
3. Lamborghini Diablo 6.0
4. An owner who did not want to get caught.
5. Full tank of fuel.
That is all I am saying.
Cheers,
Ruttboy.
Crossflow Kid said:
Uncle Fester said:
When the helicopter flies overhead, detonate the buried charge.
Errrr.......all this lengthy preparation assumes the aircraft will fly precisely where you want it to? The only predictable/guaranteed routes are short finals to where it lands, and if you know that and can get close enough to do the covert landscape gardening, why not just take the grenades and toss them in the chopper?
odyssey2200 said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Uncle Fester said:
When the helicopter flies overhead, detonate the buried charge.
Errrr.......all this lengthy preparation assumes the aircraft will fly precisely where you want it to? The only predictable/guaranteed routes are short finals to where it lands, and if you know that and can get close enough to do the covert landscape gardening, why not just take the grenades and toss them in the chopper?send up an RC plane to distract the copper chopper, the rc pilot (complete with FPV Camera and goggles) can be in a civvy car totally un related to the incident. The heli pilot will have to divert away from the model due to the danger element
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You could just fly the model into the heli rotors (a bit extreme really and I wouldnt condone these actions)
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You could just fly the model into the heli rotors (a bit extreme really and I wouldnt condone these actions)
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