How to escape a Police Helicopter

How to escape a Police Helicopter

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Gylen

10,088 posts

218 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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ruttboy said:
I have not read the whole of this thread, because I don't want to read the ins and outs of laser pointers, but I just wanted to add that it IS possible to outrun a police helicopter, but you have to have the right car, the right road, the right driver and the right luck.

I did!

1. Autoroute south of Paris.
2. Sunday morning.
3. Lamborghini Diablo 6.0
4. An owner who did not want to get caught.
5. Full tank of fuel.

That is all I am saying.

Cheers,

Ruttboy.
That simply did not happen. Unless your real name is Henri Paul as I will concede that he has previous pursuit experience on Parisian autoroutes.

Uncle Fester

3,114 posts

209 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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Crossflow Kid said:
Uncle Fester said:
When the helicopter flies overhead, detonate the buried charge.
Errrr.......all this lengthy preparation assumes the aircraft will fly precisely where you want it to? The only predictable/guaranteed routes are short finals to where it lands, and if you know that and can get close enough to do the covert landscape gardening, why not just take the grenades and toss them in the chopper?
A helicopter isn’t just sitting around waiting for someone to walk up to it and chuck one in. It might not be at home when you want to get it. Take it out too soon and they just bring another one in.

Grenades typically have a 4 second fuse. Launching a quantity in this manner will see them explode at the right kind of height to catch the helicopter. It’s like a big shotgun effect.

Seeing as you control where you are going and the helicopter follows, you can bring the helicopter to the prepared area.

Incidentally, the Viet Cong successfully used this technique against US helicopters.

automater

3,296 posts

187 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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Heskey said:
Mission Drift said:
Hypothetically speaking... What is the best way to evade a Police Helicopter?

My best guess is to head into a large multi-storey car park then dump the car and hide in amongst the shoppers? However not sure that would work if you have to carry large Securicor cash box with you.

Any idea's welcome.
Wouldn't; they have thermocams don't they? You'd show up much redder than other shoppers because they're not worrying about running from the police with a big cold cash box hoping the police don't see through your mingling plan.

You've asked your question, now let me ask one:

Why?!
You forgot about the fat people that a re very out of breath walking round

ruttboy

595 posts

227 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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Gylen said:
ruttboy said:
I have not read the whole of this thread, because I don't want to read the ins and outs of laser pointers, but I just wanted to add that it IS possible to outrun a police helicopter, but you have to have the right car, the right road, the right driver and the right luck.

I did!

1. Autoroute south of Paris.
2. Sunday morning.
3. Lamborghini Diablo 6.0
4. An owner who did not want to get caught.
5. Full tank of fuel.

That is all I am saying.

Cheers,

Ruttboy.
That simply did not happen. Unless your real name is Henri Paul as I will concede that he has previous pursuit experience on Parisian autoroutes.
Oh really!!!!!

What is wrong with PH these days.

I read part of the thread, thought I'd add my own experience, not that of some spotty teenage wannabe, and I get dissed.
Have you looked at my profile?
Have you seen what I do?
Were you there?
Do you want to see the video evidence?
Did you read or hear the many numerous press reports at the time?
Were you in the helicopter?
Were you in the car?

Evidently not.

The event was the Cannonball Run 2004, we were being stupid, we didn't want to get caught, so we took the choice as the conditions were in our favour to go for it.
We were in enough trouble already, so what we did from there didn't really matter, and to be honest, we were completely oblivious to the helicopter, all we saw was the police cars behind us as we made our escape.
It was only when we reached Monaco, turned on the telly, turned on the radio, heard from all the other drivers, and spoke to the press did we actually realise that we had left the helicopter for dead.

Bloody funny when we heard, but now, 5 years on, I now think it was probably a bad thing to do.

So no, it wasn't on an X-Box, I'm not famous, just lucky, and I don't post lies on here.
Someone somewhere will always know more than you and find you out.

Ruttboy.


Nolar Dog

8,786 posts

196 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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ruttboy said:
That is all I am saying until my next post when I spit my dummy out.

Cheers,

Ruttboy.
EFA


Taita

7,609 posts

204 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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ruttboy said:
Gylen said:
ruttboy said:
I have not read the whole of this thread, because I don't want to read the ins and outs of laser pointers, but I just wanted to add that it IS possible to outrun a police helicopter, but you have to have the right car, the right road, the right driver and the right luck.

I did!

1. Autoroute south of Paris.
2. Sunday morning.
3. Lamborghini Diablo 6.0
4. An owner who did not want to get caught.
5. Full tank of fuel.

That is all I am saying.

Cheers,

Ruttboy.
That simply did not happen. Unless your real name is Henri Paul as I will concede that he has previous pursuit experience on Parisian autoroutes.
Oh really!!!!!

What is wrong with PH these days.

I read part of the thread, thought I'd add my own experience, not that of some spotty teenage wannabe, and I get dissed.
Have you looked at my profile?
Have you seen what I do?
Were you there?
Do you want to see the video evidence?
Did you read or hear the many numerous press reports at the time?
Were you in the helicopter?
Were you in the car?

Evidently not.

The event was the Cannonball Run 2004, we were being stupid, we didn't want to get caught, so we took the choice as the conditions were in our favour to go for it.
We were in enough trouble already, so what we did from there didn't really matter, and to be honest, we were completely oblivious to the helicopter, all we saw was the police cars behind us as we made our escape.
It was only when we reached Monaco, turned on the telly, turned on the radio, heard from all the other drivers, and spoke to the press did we actually realise that we had left the helicopter for dead.

Bloody funny when we heard, but now, 5 years on, I now think it was probably a bad thing to do.

So no, it wasn't on an X-Box, I'm not famous, just lucky, and I don't post lies on here.
Someone somewhere will always know more than you and find you out.

Ruttboy.
Nice one! I want to see the vid! Bet that was an ace adrenaline rush. 1 of the things to do before I die is have a police chase.

GreenV8S

30,209 posts

285 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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ruttboy said:
my own experience
Assuming that's all true (I reckon it probably is) then probably best not to go identifying yourself as the culprit on a public forum.

groucho

12,134 posts

247 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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Crusoe said:
their top speed in ideal conditions is around 140mph, less if there is a head wind, and at top speed they don't last long on fuel. If you got on a fast motorway and had a car capable of 200mph or so you could out run one quite easily i'd imagine.

Edited by Crusoe on Friday 21st November 09:30
They have radios though.

Gylen

10,088 posts

218 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
quotequote all
ruttboy said:
Oh really!!!!!

What is wrong with PH these days.

I read part of the thread, thought I'd add my own experience, not that of some spotty teenage wannabe, and I get dissed.
Have you looked at my profile?
Have you seen what I do?
Were you there?
Do you want to see the video evidence?
Did you read or hear the many numerous press reports at the time?
Were you in the helicopter?
Were you in the car?

Evidently not.

The event was the Cannonball Run 2004, we were being stupid, we didn't want to get caught, so we took the choice as the conditions were in our favour to go for it.
We were in enough trouble already, so what we did from there didn't really matter, and to be honest, we were completely oblivious to the helicopter, all we saw was the police cars behind us as we made our escape.
It was only when we reached Monaco, turned on the telly, turned on the radio, heard from all the other drivers, and spoke to the press did we actually realise that we had left the helicopter for dead.

Bloody funny when we heard, but now, 5 years on, I now think it was probably a bad thing to do.

So no, it wasn't on an X-Box, I'm not famous, just lucky, and I don't post lies on here.
Someone somewhere will always know more than you and find you out.

Ruttboy.
Ok, no worries! If it is all true, I'm guessing you'd be pretty easy to trace through your profile so maybe not the best idea to go public with it?

Otherwise, any chance of a video? wink

Airbag

3,466 posts

197 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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GreenV8S said:
ruttboy said:
my own experience
Assuming that's all true (I reckon it probably is) then probably best not to go identifying yourself as the culprit on a public forum.
What's the statute of limitations on driving offenses in France?

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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Uncle Fester said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Uncle Fester said:
When the helicopter flies overhead, detonate the buried charge.
Errrr.......all this lengthy preparation assumes the aircraft will fly precisely where you want it to? The only predictable/guaranteed routes are short finals to where it lands, and if you know that and can get close enough to do the covert landscape gardening, why not just take the grenades and toss them in the chopper?
A helicopter isn’t just sitting around waiting for someone to walk up to it and chuck one in. It might not be at home when you want to get it. Take it out too soon and they just bring another one in.

Grenades typically have a 4 second fuse. Launching a quantity in this manner will see them explode at the right kind of height to catch the helicopter. It’s like a big shotgun effect.

Seeing as you control where you are going and the helicopter follows, you can bring the helicopter to the prepared area.

Incidentally, the Viet Cong successfully used this technique against US helicopters.
Errr......so just how high are you intending to launch these pineapples bearing in mind the feds tend to operate in the hundreds if not thousands of feet AGL in a surveillance role, and home-made anti-helicopter booby traps are only any good in very small, very specific areas against airborne assault?
In fact, looking at the four second fuze premise, let's take a police aircraft dawdling around at a grand. Four second fuze, thousand feet....that means your grenades would have to be launched forth at a rate of 15,000 feet per minute. Which is quite a lot.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 23 November 18:19


Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 23 November 18:22

gamefreaks

1,965 posts

188 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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Hire 50 odd people.

Get them to hire/provide them with identical cars. Eg: Silver Ford Focus.

Have them all wear the same clothes.

All drive to aforementioed multistory car park at predescribed time.

All leave using different exits. Disperse into crowd.

hman

7,487 posts

195 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
quotequote all
ruttboy said:
Gylen said:
ruttboy said:
I have not read the whole of this thread, because I don't want to read the ins and outs of laser pointers, but I just wanted to add that it IS possible to outrun a police helicopter, but you have to have the right car, the right road, the right driver and the right luck.

I did!

1. Autoroute south of Paris.
2. Sunday morning.
3. Lamborghini Diablo 6.0
4. An owner who did not want to get caught.
5. Full tank of fuel.

That is all I am saying.

Cheers,

Ruttboy.
That simply did not happen. Unless your real name is Henri Paul as I will concede that he has previous pursuit experience on Parisian autoroutes.
Oh really!!!!!

What is wrong with PH these days.

I read part of the thread, thought I'd add my own experience, not that of some spotty teenage wannabe, and I get dissed.
Have you looked at my profile?
Have you seen what I do?
Were you there?
Do you want to see the video evidence?
Did you read or hear the many numerous press reports at the time?
Were you in the helicopter?
Were you in the car?

Evidently not.

The event was the Cannonball Run 2004, we were being stupid, we didn't want to get caught, so we took the choice as the conditions were in our favour to go for it.
We were in enough trouble already, so what we did from there didn't really matter, and to be honest, we were completely oblivious to the helicopter, all we saw was the police cars behind us as we made our escape.
It was only when we reached Monaco, turned on the telly, turned on the radio, heard from all the other drivers, and spoke to the press did we actually realise that we had left the helicopter for dead.

Bloody funny when we heard, but now, 5 years on, I now think it was probably a bad thing to do.

So no, it wasn't on an X-Box, I'm not famous, just lucky, and I don't post lies on here.
Someone somewhere will always know more than you and find you out.

Ruttboy.
Wheres the video then ruttboy?

Us cynics need proof you know...

hairykrishna

13,183 posts

204 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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ruttboy said:
Do you want to see the video evidence?
Yes please.

hman

7,487 posts

195 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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So I've given ruttboy boy 20 mins to produce video evidence and so far nothing.

I can only say that I'm dissapointed in this.

We dont believe you ruttboy!!!scratchchin

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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Having witnessed a Cannonball event at first hand, I think I can safely say this:
ruttboy said:
The event was the Cannonball Run 2004, we were being stupid, we didn't want to get caught, so we took the choice as the conditions were in our favour to go for it.
We were in enough trouble already, so what we did from there didn't really matter, and to be honest, we were completely oblivious to the helicopter, all we saw was the police cars behind us as we made our escape.
It was only when we reached Monaco, turned on the telly, turned on the radio, heard from all the other drivers, and spoke to the press did we actually realise that we had left the helicopter for dead.

Bloody funny when we heard, but now, 5 years on, I now think it was probably a bad thing to do.
should really read as:

The event was the Cannonball Run 2004, so it goes without saying we're gonna say we were being stupid. We didn't want to be the only ones who couldn't claim to have been chased, so we drove normally but told everyone we took the choice as the conditions were kid's stuff and thus in our favour to go for it.
We weren't really in trouble already, we were just a bit irritating, so what we did from there didn't really matter, and to be honest, we were completely oblivious to the helicopter because there wasn't one, all we saw was the empty road where we kept hoping to see police cars, or even just one, behind us.
It was only when we reached Monaco, turned on the telly, turned on the radio, heard all the other drivers fairy tales, and spoke to the bell boy did we actually realise that the helicopter was in fact just a well known local pro golfer having a flying lesson.

Bloody funny to us alone when we heard, but now, 5 years on, I now think it was probably as make believe as all the other stories.

Jimbo.

3,950 posts

190 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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Hide from the helicopter and they'll unleash the dogs. Go to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect £200.

ruttboy

595 posts

227 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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Crossflow Kid said:
Having witnessed a Cannonball event at first hand, I think I can safely say this:
ruttboy said:
The event was the Cannonball Run 2004, we were being stupid, we didn't want to get caught, so we took the choice as the conditions were in our favour to go for it.
We were in enough trouble already, so what we did from there didn't really matter, and to be honest, we were completely oblivious to the helicopter, all we saw was the police cars behind us as we made our escape.
It was only when we reached Monaco, turned on the telly, turned on the radio, heard from all the other drivers, and spoke to the press did we actually realise that we had left the helicopter for dead.

Bloody funny when we heard, but now, 5 years on, I now think it was probably a bad thing to do.
should really read as:

The event was the Cannonball Run 2004, so it goes without saying we're gonna say we were being stupid. We didn't want to be the only ones who couldn't claim to have been chased, so we drove normally but told everyone we took the choice as the conditions were kid's stuff and thus in our favour to go for it.
We weren't really in trouble already, we were just a bit irritating, so what we did from there didn't really matter, and to be honest, we were completely oblivious to the helicopter because there wasn't one, all we saw was the empty road where we kept hoping to see police cars, or even just one, behind us.
It was only when we reached Monaco, turned on the telly, turned on the radio, heard all the other drivers fairy tales, and spoke to the bell boy did we actually realise that the helicopter was in fact just a well known local pro golfer having a flying lesson.

Bloody funny to us alone when we heard, but now, 5 years on, I now think it was probably as make believe as all the other stories.
Idiot!!

I wasn't driving, and I am no longer in contact with the owner of the car, so I have nothing to hide.

Also, tell me how to post on YouTube, (I am an idiot when it comes to computers) and I am more than happy to put the video on there.

Also more than happy to dig around for the links to the press cuttings to provide the links to the stories.

The only reason I know there was a helicopter was that it landed next to the road upon the police setting up a road block and stopping several other cars, all of them getting arrested, and they were livid about losing us.

We had no idea we were being chased by them, all we saw was the police cars.

And as for being reckless and stupid, I am quite sure the many hundreds of my supercar clients who trust and respect me with their cars would disagree with you.

Perhaps those of you who doubt should actually get beyond your Saxos and Corsas and realise that there are some people on here who actually talk from experience, and will not bother in future because I am getting tired of pretenders who talk out of their a**e.

As I've said, I am happy to prove it, and had my footage edited professionally so you could see exactly what we got up to.

Tell me how to post, and I will.

Cheers,

Ruttboy.

Airbag

3,466 posts

197 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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ruttboy said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Having witnessed a Cannonball event at first hand, I think I can safely say this:
ruttboy said:
The event was the Cannonball Run 2004, we were being stupid, we didn't want to get caught, so we took the choice as the conditions were in our favour to go for it.
We were in enough trouble already, so what we did from there didn't really matter, and to be honest, we were completely oblivious to the helicopter, all we saw was the police cars behind us as we made our escape.
It was only when we reached Monaco, turned on the telly, turned on the radio, heard from all the other drivers, and spoke to the press did we actually realise that we had left the helicopter for dead.

Bloody funny when we heard, but now, 5 years on, I now think it was probably a bad thing to do.
should really read as:

The event was the Cannonball Run 2004, so it goes without saying we're gonna say we were being stupid. We didn't want to be the only ones who couldn't claim to have been chased, so we drove normally but told everyone we took the choice as the conditions were kid's stuff and thus in our favour to go for it.
We weren't really in trouble already, we were just a bit irritating, so what we did from there didn't really matter, and to be honest, we were completely oblivious to the helicopter because there wasn't one, all we saw was the empty road where we kept hoping to see police cars, or even just one, behind us.
It was only when we reached Monaco, turned on the telly, turned on the radio, heard all the other drivers fairy tales, and spoke to the bell boy did we actually realise that the helicopter was in fact just a well known local pro golfer having a flying lesson.

Bloody funny to us alone when we heard, but now, 5 years on, I now think it was probably as make believe as all the other stories.
Idiot!!

I wasn't driving, and I am no longer in contact with the owner of the car, so I have nothing to hide.

Also, tell me how to post on YouTube, (I am an idiot when it comes to computers) and I am more than happy to put the video on there.

Also more than happy to dig around for the links to the press cuttings to provide the links to the stories.

The only reason I know there was a helicopter was that it landed next to the road upon the police setting up a road block and stopping several other cars, all of them getting arrested, and they were livid about losing us.

We had no idea we were being chased by them, all we saw was the police cars.

And as for being reckless and stupid, I am quite sure the many hundreds of my supercar clients who trust and respect me with their cars would disagree with you.

Perhaps those of you who doubt should actually get beyond your Saxos and Corsas and realise that there are some people on here who actually talk from experience, and will not bother in future because I am getting tired of pretenders who talk out of their a**e.

As I've said, I am happy to prove it, and had my footage edited professionally so you could see exactly what we got up to.

Tell me how to post, and I will.

Cheers,

Ruttboy.
Why are you letting him get you all riled up? I can't imagine that you care what he thinks about the veracity of your story.

Edited by Airbag on Monday 24th November 05:21

hairykrishna

13,183 posts

204 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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ruttboy said:
Tell me how to post, and I will.
Sign up for an account here; http://uk.youtube.com/signup?next=/

After sign up click 'upload video' and browse to it on your hard drive.

Couldn't be simpler.