How to escape a Police Helicopter

[Kaelic]

Why not get an accomplice to tie the helicopter to a parked car or something so when they come to take off they cant

My dastardly plan will work!!


In manchester the police whirly burd is based at barton and there is next to no security so it would be quite easy to sabotage the thing on the ground beforehand.

[Pot Bellied Fool]

Crusoe said:

plus it wouldn't work, cameras can see clearly down to a 1 degree variance I believe, foil would heat up in seconds.

Less than 1 degree with ease although it depends on the spatial frequency of the target.

My kit specifies 0.1°C @ 0.289 c/mrad.

Thermal imaging is of course military in origin (& most of the serious development was UK led ) so turn to the military option...

Smoke screens with a sufficient particulate content to mask IR - have an accomplice set those off around the multistorey and then saunter to your fresh car & drive off.

Or if you're heading cross country, you need a suitable camouflage suit. Flectalon would be a good place to start but as someone said, don't forget the head!

Don't forget though, everything above absolute zero will emit thermal radiation so beware not just of your own thermal signature but also that of what you disturb... depends on the skill of the operator though in just how good you'd have to be.

My preference would be the large covered shopping centre with one or more fresh cars left there.

Scream up in the hot car, park. Saunter to your fresh one whilst an accomplice sets off the smoke pots creating confusion & cover for you to drive sedately off to another carpark for a second change. By the time the cctv is viewed you'll be long gone.

If you've got a really good accomplice then arrange to head in on a certain road (with Police in pursuit) and then have him scatter suitable puncture material as you go past to help get you some headway & cause confusion.

Have I thought about this too much?

[Dirty Boy]

I love these subjects on PH, we all sit there watching criminals on the run, thinking 'bunch of dumb ass tits - all they need to do is.....and they'd be home free'




Personally, i'd never rob a bank. Piracy is easy money these days.

[Crusoe]

Rinspeed sQuba would get my vote, steal from somewhere near the sea, drive down the pier and you're gone

[drivin_me_nuts]

Pot Bellied Fool said:

Crusoe said:

plus it wouldn't work, cameras can see clearly down to a 1 degree variance I believe, foil would heat up in seconds.

Less than 1 degree with ease although it depends on the spatial frequency of the target.

My kit specifies 0.1°C @ 0.289 c/mrad.

Thermal imaging is of course military in origin (& most of the serious development was UK led ) so turn to the military option...

Smoke screens with a sufficient particulate content to mask IR - have an accomplice set those off around the multistorey and then saunter to your fresh car & drive off.

Or if you're heading cross country, you need a suitable camouflage suit. Flectalon would be a good place to start but as someone said, don't forget the head!

Don't forget though, everything above absolute zero will emit thermal radiation so beware not just of your own thermal signature but also that of what you disturb... depends on the skill of the operator though in just how good you'd have to be.

My preference would be the large covered shopping centre with one or more fresh cars left there.

Scream up in the hot car, park. Saunter to your fresh one whilst an accomplice sets off the smoke pots creating confusion & cover for you to drive sedately off to another carpark for a second change. By the time the cctv is viewed you'll be long gone.

If you've got a really good accomplice then arrange to head in on a certain road (with Police in pursuit) and then have him scatter suitable puncture material as you go past to help get you some headway & cause confusion.

Have I thought about this too much?

way way too much

[Dirty Boy]

Couldn't you just phone the police, tell them there's a bomb in a school and if they don't call off the search you'll blow them all up?

You'd obviously have to kill a token member of the public to show you're serious.

OTT maybe?

[AllTorque]

a friend of mine flies in these things, and she has said that a bloke jumping in a wheelie bin once evaded detection for quite some time....

[Rob P]

branflakes said:

Right.

My mastermind robbery would take place somewhere along the M4 corridor. The car would be an Evo or Scooby with some light tuning. After the robbery, head west on the M4 as fast as possible, thus outrunning the helicopter. Once I get to the M5 I head north. Just after passing junction 14 I'd dump a load of nails out the back to slow down any pursuing police vehicles, then come off at the northbound Michaelwood services, head down the service road and onto the twisty backroads (where the superior handling of the Evo/Scooby would see off any remaining police vehicles) and a few minutes later head down the service road to the SOUTHBOUND Michaelwood services and switch cars. Then down the M5 at a more leisurely pace having lost the police, off at junction 14 and head in a roughly westerly direction to a pub on the river Severn, where another preplaced car contains oxygen rebreathing scuba gear and those underwater propulsion things that you always see in James Bond films. Put on the scuba gear, into the Severn and start swimming upstream for a few miles, get out of the river, dump the scuba gear, into the final preplaced car and away to freedom with my millions.

Not that I've thought about it much.

Why dont you stay in the pub and not get wet/cold?!

[spitfire-ian]

miguel38 said:

Mc Lovin said:

make a run for some woods, where you have pre planted a large pane of glass with sucker handles attached, lift said pane over your head, et voila. No heat signature from above.

How would that work?

I was thinking that too, I'm fairly sure the cameras can detect heat through glass. Afterall, don't the fire brigade use them?

[r1ch]

Too difficult to escape a helicopter, much rather drive to a busy public place and risk it on foot.

[mel]

I'll see your submarine and raise you a .....

[jammy_basturd]

AllTorque said:

a friend of mine flies in these things, and she has said that a bloke jumping in a wheelie bin once evaded detection for quite some time....

As a getaway vehicle though....?


And the glass would have to be double glazed.

[AbarthChris]

There was a chase shown on Police Camera Action a while back where some thieves used a stolen Evo8 as a getaway car. The traffic cops in a volvo lost them before they had chance to get the bird off the ground.

So...

Rob bank, jump into massively quick evo, burn off putting many twists and turns between you and the rozzers, swiftly change into nondescript but quick car (Audi S8 with nitrous anyone ) drive for hours, crossing into france or spain, fence the goods, spend the cash wisely, live happily ever after

[Pot Bellied Fool]

spitfire-ian said:

miguel38 said:

Mc Lovin said:

make a run for some woods, where you have pre planted a large pane of glass with sucker handles attached, lift said pane over your head, et voila. No heat signature from above.

How would that work?

I was thinking that too, I'm fairly sure the cameras can detect heat through glass. After all, don't the fire brigade use them?

Yes they do but not to look through glass. (their kit is quite basic but very portable, great for finding a body shaped hot spot in a room or evaluating which acetylene bottle is about to pop though).

Short wave thermal imaging has some glass transmission but still not much. At the wavelengths (long wave, 8-14um) used by most military grade imagers then glass is a selective radiator, dominated by reflection.

So what you'd see is this jet black oblong (reflecting the cold sky temperature) walking through the woods... anomalous enough to merit a closer look I'd guess!

[tomTVR]

How fast are police helicopters? I reckon an RS6 at 4am on the M1 could outrun some of them. If not then at full chat it would probably empty its fuel tank faster than the car.

[wpo750]

Call Jason Statham. Not only is he the bestest driver Hollywood has ever seen, he can shoot a police helicopter down with his finger, by yelling, "Bang!" (Chuck Norris style)

[Neil_H]

I'm not sure an airport would be the best place to go, lots of armed police and lots of surveillance. I would go somewhere very busy and try and get lost among other people - driving into a multi storey car park and then into a shopping centre or something.

[Dupont666]

why wouldnt one of those laser pointer things work??

the laser hits the glass and then blinds the pilot and co pilot, do that a few times and they will back off... thats the reason if you point it at choppers, they throw the book at you for endangering lives..

[Tyre_Tread]

devonshiredave said:

nobody mentioned underground yet?

sewer/drainage map of the area, tools, air, lights etc stashed down there already, hey presto youre free

My thoughts exactly. Bit smelly but easier than trying to hide from the 'copter.

Need to get into drains without being seen and then just saunter away through the poo.

[Obiwonkeyblokey]

There is only one clear answer to this topic.