Mid air collision

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Rude-boy

22,227 posts

234 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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hornetrider said:
I used to fly out of Shawbury. The instructor had a big broadsheet stuffed up front that he used to make a fuss about opening up and 'reading' after he said the fateful words, "You have control"
And going through your mind at the time "That's what you think."

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Flipping eck, that's what it was. We were down Rest Bay but nearly went to Kenfig (flip of the coin for a walk). Saw the Sea King hovering around and wondered why it was practicing in land then a police chopper lift off. Obviously we got there (Porthcawl) after it happened.

Local radio say people are trying to steal the wreckage.

Badgerboy

1,783 posts

193 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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jmorgan said:
Local radio say people are trying to steal the wreckage.
FFS. Part from the fact the airframes are partly composite, which is a lovely toxic combination when introduced to fire, it's an aircrash scene. If people going fking with the evidence, I hope the investigators break their legs.

oobster

7,101 posts

212 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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4 dead according to the police.

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s3fella

10,524 posts

188 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Very sad news, condolences for all concerned. BBC site says they were from RAF Cranwell....? A long way from home if so, so assume this is an error.


I too remember the the AEFs with great fondness. I won an RAF flying scholarship when I was 15, did it at 16 and then when I next took a load of cadets to the AEF, the instructor saw my "wings" and said, OK, its all yours!! Flew the whole sortie, great fun and near perfect, until the landing, my first in a tail dragger, big crosswind, and having touched down well, relaxed, then the nose went up not down like my aerobat! I could not see anything especailly from the back and we ran off the side of the runway! Grass and glass everywhere! Never made that mistake again.

I hope the pen pushers and elf and safety geezers dont outlaw these flights now. They have truly been resopnsible for hundreds if not thousands of people pursuing flying careers both military and civilian, and I am sure remain in the memoroes of any kid who ever did one.

Sad News

Edited by s3fella on Wednesday 11th February 18:04

magpie215

4,406 posts

190 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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remember my first ever flight 10 AEF out of Woodvale Chipmunk.

pilot"ever flown before"
me "no sir"
pilot "want to do some aeros"
me "hell yeah sir"

happy days

Bosshogg76

792 posts

184 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Crash and Smash out of St Athan are there now, my mate has the rather hideous task of wreckage collection, airframe and biological. Thats a job i've only done once and never ever ever want to do again. F15's Scottish hill,*shiver*

NDA

21,620 posts

226 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Hopefully they didn't suffer - unlike four families tonight.... awful.

fish

3,976 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Just dug my UWAS pot beer mug out and am having a drink to the boys tonight. Some of my happiest days ever when on UWAS with some legandary flying and party times. Alot of our year still in the service.

My thoughts are with ALL of our services tonight and especially the individuals involved.

Badgerboy

1,783 posts

193 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Two cadets on a jolly with two instructors it seems. All confirmed fatalities. frown Given the location they were either heading in or out of Saints, and should have been under the instructors control if they were flying in formation. Any formation aero's would have much further along the coast and certainly at a higher altitude. I don't think we'll know what happened, but one of the first things they drill into you is observation, observation, observation. Very unusual.

Edited by Badgerboy on Wednesday 11th February 20:32

eccles

13,740 posts

223 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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james_tigerwoods said:
Cara Van Man said:
Oh dear....I had my first AEF out of Marshalls at Cambridge.
Me too smile
And I used to work there fixing said aircraft, and on occasion supervising cadets on vomit cleaning duties.

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

196 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Despite this tragedy they have had a very good safety record all said. Never thought this would happen as all the pilots ive been up with at the AEFs have been very prefessional and usually very experienced.

Must be truly awful for all four families.

IforB

9,840 posts

230 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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It could be even worse, the latest is that it might be 2 young girls who are related..........

Marc W

3,782 posts

212 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Just been reading about it. It seems they were Cousins. Very very sad.frown

ian in lancs

3,774 posts

199 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Desparately sad accident

topsparks

1,202 posts

248 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Very sad day.I am an ex cadet and am now a civilian instructor at my local squadron,will be taking my son and 3 other cadets this Saturday flying the same aircraft,will be very sobering.

Sgt Bilko

1,929 posts

216 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Extremely sad news, and with over 45,000 cadets in the ATC and another 15,000 staff, this is (and will) hit everyone hard.

You wouldn't think that 13 year olds could be saddened by this news, of people they had never met, but thy do and they did tonight when i had the job of informing my group of 50.

My thoughts go to the families, the staff who looked after them, their friends and those who had to attend and deal.

polosaremint

200 posts

189 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Crimson Tide said:
Christ, that's awful. I used to love wheeling about in Tutors as a cadet, but thoughts of something like this never even occurred to me. Condolences to those involved frown
me toofrown
i had about 20 flights in these things and it was a great experience.
cant believe something like this has happened tbf

Pferdestarke

7,184 posts

188 months

Thursday 12th February 2009
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Anywhere near Rockwool's factory in Pencoed?

gopher

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5,160 posts

260 months

Thursday 12th February 2009
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Pferdestarke said:
Anywhere near Rockwool's factory in Pencoed?
not really that close - about 8-10 miles west of there.