Mid air collision

[Loose Lips]

magpie215 said:

remember my first ever flight 10 AEF out of Woodvale Chipmunk.

pilot"ever flown before"
me "no sir"
pilot "want to do some aeros"
me "hell yeah sir"

happy days

Must have had the same pilot as me. Do you remember having to walk wearing that parachute? -Happy days

[james_tigerwoods]

Loose Lips said:

magpie215 said:

remember my first ever flight 10 AEF out of Woodvale Chipmunk.

pilot"ever flown before"
me "no sir"
pilot "want to do some aeros"
me "hell yeah sir"

happy days

Must have had the same pilot as me. Do you remember having to waddle like a freekin' eejit wearing that parachute? -Happy days

EFA

[Cara Van Man]

I remember waling to the aircraft and feeling like a total mong.....

I must have looked like the character from the Kia-Ora adverts

[williamp]

Any who can remember the Chipmonk instruction video- soooo 70s. I've tried to find it on Youtube, but no luck..

Brilliant times in the ATC. Such a shame about this news.

[VetteG]

This is a very sad accident, which like others, I hope doesnt change anything in the policy of giving cadets flights. I still look back to my time in the cadets and the flights in Chipmunks were and are till some of the highlights, real flying! And I laughed when I was reminded of the parachute waddle.

G

[Loose Lips]

VetteG said:

This is a very sad accident, which like others, I hope doesnt change anything in the policy of giving cadets flights. G

Same goes for me.

[Cara Van Man]

Any names of the pilots released yet as I knew an instructor quite well afew years back and I'm hoping it's not him?

[Badgerboy]

Cara Van Man said:

Any names of the pilots released yet as I knew an instructor quite well afew years back and I'm hoping it's not him?

You won't get the pilots names for a while, you know what the RAF are like on releasing details. It'll have to go through the families first. I'll check with one of my mates ater and make sure it wasn't any of the QFI's I knew.

[Eric Mc]

It's very unfortunate that two most recent accidents involving Cadets happened in Wales. The Wessex crash happened in Snowdonia.

One of the greatest disdvantages I had of growing up in Ireland is that there was nothing like the ATC that a youngster could join. I had a Welsh friend who used to tell me all about summer camps at Sealand and other RAF bases and the fun they had flying Chippies and gliders and getting rides in Hercs doing circuits and bumps at Lyneham. He made me very jealous.

[Dr Jekyll]

Sgt Bilko said:

and with over 45,000 cadets in the ATC and another 15,000 staff,

Strewth, how many people in the RAF these days?

[Samcat]

james_tigerwoods said:

Loose Lips said:

magpie215 said:

remember my first ever flight 10 AEF out of Woodvale Chipmunk.

pilot"ever flown before"
me "no sir"
pilot "want to do some aeros"
me "hell yeah sir"

happy days

Must have had the same pilot as me. Do you remember having to waddle like a freekin' eejit wearing that parachute? -Happy days

EFA

+1

Humour apart this is very sad news, when you are 14 or 15 you don't think about the risks.

[james_tigerwoods]

Samcat said:

james_tigerwoods said:

Loose Lips said:

magpie215 said:

remember my first ever flight 10 AEF out of Woodvale Chipmunk.

pilot"ever flown before"
me "no sir"
pilot "want to do some aeros"
me "hell yeah sir"

happy days

Must have had the same pilot as me. Do you remember having to waddle like a freekin' eejit wearing that parachute? -Happy days

EFA

+1

Humour apart this is very sad news, when you are 14 or 15 you don't think about the risks.

I agree that it's sad news, but the thought of walking with that 'chute lightened the thought briefly

[Badgerboy]

james_tigerwoods said:

Samcat said:

james_tigerwoods said:

Loose Lips said:

magpie215 said:

remember my first ever flight 10 AEF out of Woodvale Chipmunk.

pilot"ever flown before"
me "no sir"
pilot "want to do some aeros"
me "hell yeah sir"

happy days

Must have had the same pilot as me. Do you remember having to waddle like a freekin' eejit wearing that parachute? -Happy days

EFA

+1

Humour apart this is very sad news, when you are 14 or 15 you don't think about the risks.

I agree that it's sad news, but the thought of walking with that 'chute lightened the thought briefly

Sod knows I didn't think about it when I was 21! First most of my mind was memorising all the damn checklists!

[john_p]

Walking with the parachute on was nothing compared to the effort of climbing up onto the wing of the Chipmunk, lifting your leg into the cockpit then somehow falling into the rear seat!

stall turns, barrel rolls, slow rolls, all good fun. Even the emergency landing at Benson was fun in its own way..

[oobster]

Dr Jekyll said:

Sgt Bilko said:

and with over 45,000 cadets in the ATC and another 15,000 staff,

Strewth, how many people in the RAF these days?

Copy/paste from the BBC News Website:

The cadets were Nikita Marie Walters, 13, and Katie-Joe Davies, 14, both from Gilfach Goch in Rhondda Cynon Taf.

The pilots were Hylton Price from Bridgend and Andrew Marsh from Vale of Glamorgan.

[Badgerboy]

"The pilots were Hylton Price from Bridgend and Andrew Marsh from Vale of Glamorgan"

No mention of Rank or Sqn though.

[OJ]

magpie215 said:

remember my first ever flight 10 AEF out of Woodvale Chipmunk.

pilot"ever flown before"
me "no sir"
pilot "want to do some aeros"
me "hell yeah sir"

happy days

My experience

Pilot - 'Ever flown before?'
Me - 'Yep did another taster a year ago'
Pilot - 'Do you want to do some Aerobatics'
Me (takes one look at big sticker across the instrument panel of the Bulldog that said 'High Fatigue Airframe - No Aerobatics') - 'Err, no thanks'
Pilot - 'Tough st, because I do!'

I had to tell him I felt sick after a few minutes... which was only half a lie

[Badgerboy]

OJ said:

magpie215 said:

remember my first ever flight 10 AEF out of Woodvale Chipmunk.

pilot"ever flown before"
me "no sir"
pilot "want to do some aeros"
me "hell yeah sir"

happy days

My experience

Pilot - 'Ever flown before?'
Me - 'Yep did another taster a year ago'
Pilot - 'Do you want to do some Aerobatics'
Me (takes one look at big sticker across the instrument panel of the Bulldog that said 'High Fatigue Airframe - No Aerobatics') - 'Err, no thanks'
Pilot - 'Tough st, because I do!'

I had to tell him I felt sick after a few minutes... which was only half a lie

I shouldn't worry, we were not supposed to do flicks or square loops in the Grobs due to hairline fractures developing on the wing spars. Wings managed not to fall off.

[Cara Van Man]

Badgerboy said:

"The pilots were Hylton Price from Bridgend and Andrew Marsh from Vale of Glamorgan"

No mention of Rank or Sqn though.

Not anyone i knew.

[OJ]

Badgerboy said:

I shouldn't worry, we were not supposed to do flicks or square loops in the Grobs due to hairline fractures developing on the wing spars. Wings managed not to fall off.

Still, doing barrel rolls and loops in a plane that has a large sticker across the dash implying the wings aren't far from falling off didn't fill me with confidence!