Two nuclear subs collide in Atlantic

Two nuclear subs collide in Atlantic

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badgers_back

513 posts

187 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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[quote=mel]The poor sods out there right now will have no return date and could well be looking at 4-6 months underwater ......

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The'd run out of food first, at a guess they will send it back for a quick recrew and restock, That is if they really can't get another out to sea to replace it..

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

199 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Nic Jones said:
paoloh said:
Nic Jones said:
Didn't the Kursk sink because an American Sub sailed into it? (Although the yanks denied it and then when said submarine immediately went into dry dock for repair they wouldn't let the Ruskies have a look at it scratchchin)

And then when the Kursk fired a torpedo the yanks thought they were firing at them so promptly sent one back which exploded in the torpedo room.

I watched a documentary on it last week, apparently it happens quite regularly. yes
I'd ask your Dr to alter your medication.
I'd ask your Dr to prescribe you a brain to use before posting, I'm not making it up, see rhinochopig's post.
Sorry mate, but I was describing the plot of the Abyss. I was pulling your leg hehe

The Moose

22,867 posts

210 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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some random person said:
The Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament described the reported collision as "a nuclear nightmare of the highest order".
Am I the only one thinking that this is a stupid comment to make.

Have they not heard of places such as Hiroshima or Chernobyl?

Or is two metal tubes bumping around in the Atlantic worse than them?!?!

fking hell - I would rather be in a tube in the atlantic bumping into another than be in one of the two aforementioned places!!

LOL

cornishgirl

1,692 posts

193 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Jean-Claude: "Mon Capitan, there is an English sub ahead. Shall I turn away".

Captain: "Merde a les Rosbifs. We French are made of sterner stuff n'est ce pas? Let THEM turn first."

Nic Jones

7,059 posts

221 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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rhinochopig said:
Nic Jones said:
paoloh said:
Nic Jones said:
Didn't the Kursk sink because an American Sub sailed into it? (Although the yanks denied it and then when said submarine immediately went into dry dock for repair they wouldn't let the Ruskies have a look at it scratchchin)

And then when the Kursk fired a torpedo the yanks thought they were firing at them so promptly sent one back which exploded in the torpedo room.

I watched a documentary on it last week, apparently it happens quite regularly. yes
I'd ask your Dr to alter your medication.
I'd ask your Dr to prescribe you a brain to use before posting, I'm not making it up, see rhinochopig's post.
Sorry mate, but I was describing the plot of the Abyss. I was pulling your leg hehe
D'oh, I've re read your post now rather than just skim read like I did before.

phone Yes I'd like to make an appointment with the Dr please....

I'm off to find out the name of the documentary I saw....

ETA, that was easy... http://www.documentary-film.net/search/video-listi...

Edited by Nic Jones on Monday 16th February 11:47

Chainguy

4,381 posts

201 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Well, a lot of things I can tell you, a lot more I cant.

I was at sea in a nuclear submarine when the Kursk went down. Was I in the area? Who knows. Well, maybe I do but I like freedom, not jail. Say I'll say feck all about where we were or what we were doing (maybe Iwas in Bermuda getting a tan listening to the tropical fish?? Your guess.)

Did she get hit by a Yank boat? No. She didn't.

Did she have a torp cook off due to using Hydrogen Peroxide fuel (something we trialed 50 years ago, and didn't adopt for that very reason, despite the power advantages) and that took her out? Yes. stty luck, and even more stty quality control on a welded pipe.

Do I also know one of the divers who cut the front end off her with a giant bandsaw before she was taken back home? Yes, I do. No foul play or dents from other submarines were seen.

Sorry, I know we all love a good conspiricy theory, and in the submarine world, there are a LOT that have more than a nugget of truth in them. However, you loking in the wrong place as this one isn't one of them. Sorry.


Nic Jones

7,059 posts

221 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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That's good enough for me. thumbup

Silent1

19,761 posts

236 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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badgers_back said:
mel said:
The poor sods out there right now will have no return date and could well be looking at 4-6 months underwater ......
The'd run out of food first, at a guess they will send it back for a quick recrew and restock, That is if they really can't get another out to sea to replace it..
Haven't you heard, they're now carrying Beef & Tomato and Chicken & Mushroom potnoodles now, nuclear proof food and they've got enough for a years supply.

Apparently the captain gets Posh Noodles.

Badgerboy

1,783 posts

193 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Didn't the Russians sell a batch of those Shvak torpedos to the Chinese? I can see the benefits of a underwater rocket, but blowing the bow off your rather expensive submarines is a certain downside.

MartG

20,695 posts

205 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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The Moose said:
some random person said:
The Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament described the reported collision as "a nuclear nightmare of the highest order".
Am I the only one thinking that this is a stupid comment to make.
+1

I remember the same group reporting a fire in the electrical switchyard of a nuclear power station as being a potential nuclear disaster - and the switchyard is half a mile away from the reactor and could never affect the reactor itself rolleyes A similar fire at a coal powered station a couple of weeks later went completely unreported

wadgebeast

3,856 posts

212 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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I was in Malta recently and we had a CND type demo on the other side of the dockyard there. Big banners saying "WARSHIPS KILL".

Errr, yeah. That's kind of the point.....

FourWheelDrift

88,560 posts

285 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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wadgebeast said:
I was in Malta recently and we had a CND type demo on the other side of the dockyard there. Big banners saying "WARSHIPS KILL".

Errr, yeah. That's kind of the point.....
Couldn't have been locals, probably the usual home counties set that follow the fleet around.

AJI

5,180 posts

218 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Will petrol prices increase as a result of this collision?

fathomfive

9,927 posts

191 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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AJI said:
Will petrol prices increase as a result of this collision?
Not sure, but stocks and shares may take a dive.

Stablelad

3,815 posts

205 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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fathomfive said:
AJI said:
Will petrol prices increase as a result of this collision?
Not sure, but stocks and shares may take a dive.
ouch...hehe

nonegreen

7,803 posts

271 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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The Moose said:
some random person said:
The Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament described the reported collision as "a nuclear nightmare of the highest order".
Am I the only one thinking that this is a stupid comment to make.

Have they not heard of places such as Hiroshima or Chernobyl?

Or is two metal tubes bumping around in the Atlantic worse than them?!?!

fking hell - I would rather be in a tube in the atlantic bumping into another than be in one of the two aforementioned places!!

LOL
Didnt know we dropped a bomb on chrernobyl I thought that was a daft russian trying to impress his boss by overiding 20 sets of safety interlocks any one of which would have prevented the problem. However yes the CND people are completely barking, possibly due to their medication.

I have at least 10 friends who served in american subs who have been involved in collisions so its very common, or at leasst it used to be.

The Moose

22,867 posts

210 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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nonegreen said:
The Moose said:
some random person said:
The Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament described the reported collision as "a nuclear nightmare of the highest order".
Am I the only one thinking that this is a stupid comment to make.

Have they not heard of places such as Hiroshima or Chernobyl?

Or is two metal tubes bumping around in the Atlantic worse than them?!?!

fking hell - I would rather be in a tube in the atlantic bumping into another than be in one of the two aforementioned places!!

LOL
Didnt know we dropped a bomb on chrernobyl I thought that was a daft russian trying to impress his boss by overiding 20 sets of safety interlocks any one of which would have prevented the problem. However yes the CND people are completely barking, possibly due to their medication.

I have at least 10 friends who served in american subs who have been involved in collisions so its very common, or at leasst it used to be.
I don't think I mentioned a bomb being dropped on Chernobyl... did I??

S7Paul

2,103 posts

235 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Another well-informed quote from the perfectly rational, objective CND:-

"The collision of two submarines, both with nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons onboard could have released vast amounts of radiation and scattered scores of nuclear warheads across the seabed," said CND chair Kate Hudson.

"The dents reportedly visible on the British sub show the boats were no more than a couple of seconds away from total catastrophe."

Kate Hudson must be very clever. Armed only with the information that there were some dents on Vanguard (which she hasn't seen), she has been able to determine that they were "no more than a couple of seconds away from total catastrophe".

fathomfive

9,927 posts

191 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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S7Paul said:
Another well-informed quote from the perfectly rational, objective CND:-

"The collision of two submarines, both with nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons onboard could have released vast amounts of radiation and scattered scores of nuclear warheads across the seabed," said CND chair Kate Hudson.

"The dents reportedly visible on the British sub show the boats were no more than a couple of seconds away from total catastrophe."

Kate Hudson must be very clever. Armed only with the information that there were some dents on Vanguard (which she hasn't seen), she has been able to determine that they were "no more than a couple of seconds away from total catastrophe".
You almost get the impression CND will only be happy when something does go dreadfully wrong and the entire human race is wiped out in a nuclear holocaust. Just so they can turn round in the afterlife and say "I told you so".

nonegreen

7,803 posts

271 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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The Moose said:
nonegreen said:
The Moose said:
some random person said:
The Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament described the reported collision as "a nuclear nightmare of the highest order".
Am I the only one thinking that this is a stupid comment to make.

Have they not heard of places such as Hiroshima or Chernobyl?

Or is two metal tubes bumping around in the Atlantic worse than them?!?!

fking hell - I would rather be in a tube in the atlantic bumping into another than be in one of the two aforementioned places!!

LOL
Didnt know we dropped a bomb on chrernobyl I thought that was a daft russian trying to impress his boss by overiding 20 sets of safety interlocks any one of which would have prevented the problem. However yes the CND people are completely barking, possibly due to their medication.

I have at least 10 friends who served in american subs who have been involved in collisions so its very common, or at leasst it used to be.
I don't think I mentioned a bomb being dropped on Chernobyl... did I??
lol surely by association with hiroshima the implication is that there was a bomb dropped ie you got yer towns mixed up and should have said nagasaki.