Two nuclear subs collide in Atlantic
Discussion
nonegreen said:
The Moose said:
nonegreen said:
The Moose said:
some random person said:
The Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament described the reported collision as "a nuclear nightmare of the highest order".
Am I the only one thinking that this is a stupid comment to make.Have they not heard of places such as Hiroshima or Chernobyl?
Or is two metal tubes bumping around in the Atlantic worse than them?!?!
f
king hell - I would rather be in a tube in the atlantic bumping into another than be in one of the two aforementioned places!!LOL
I have at least 10 friends who served in american subs who have been involved in collisions so its very common, or at leasst it used to be.
nonegreen said:
Didnt know we dropped a bomb on chrernobyl I thought that was a daft russian trying to impress his boss by overiding 20 sets of safety interlocks any one of which would have prevented the problem. However yes the CND people are completely barking, possibly due to their medication.
I have at least 10 friends who served in american subs who have been involved in collisions so its very common, or at leasst it used to be.
"I thought that was a daft russian trying to impress his boss by overiding 20 sets of safety interlocks any one of which would have prevented the problem."I have at least 10 friends who served in american subs who have been involved in collisions so its very common, or at leasst it used to be.
Err, no.
It was a test of the safety systems done by someone with no training on a nuclear power station (only coal), as the test was supposed to be done in the daytime when the fully trained crew were on, they didn't have time to do it, so asked the night skeleton crew to do it, because of their lack of training it led to them making some critical errors, such as turning the coolant flow off, etc and due to the design of the reactor, when the water boiled off the core became more efficient, not less like every other design in the world and the rest is history.
Silent1 said:
badgers_back said:
mel said:
The poor sods out there right now will have no return date and could well be looking at 4-6 months underwater ......
The'd run out of food first, at a guess they will send it back for a quick recrew and restock, That is if they really can't get another out to sea to replace it..Apparently the captain gets Posh Noodles.
mel said:
Silent1 said:
badgers_back said:
mel said:
The poor sods out there right now will have no return date and could well be looking at 4-6 months underwater ......
The'd run out of food first, at a guess they will send it back for a quick recrew and restock, That is if they really can't get another out to sea to replace it..Apparently the captain gets Posh Noodles.
Those crazy hippies mrs in car today after hearing about the collision in the radio.
How can they crash with all that high tech radar and sonar stuff they have.
me: they were probably playing war games or something one was chasing the other so they may have been very close(a complete guess on my part)
her: oh I see so the one being chased made itself invisible so it could get away?
invisible?
yes so they couldnt see it thats why they crashed into it.
I let it slide, she may be privy to some top secret stuff that has slipped me by. amasing teh stuff they can do these days.
awaits 400 PHers telling me yeah whats wrong with that
How can they crash with all that high tech radar and sonar stuff they have.
me: they were probably playing war games or something one was chasing the other so they may have been very close(a complete guess on my part)
her: oh I see so the one being chased made itself invisible so it could get away?
invisible?
yes so they couldnt see it thats why they crashed into it.
I let it slide, she may be privy to some top secret stuff that has slipped me by. amasing teh stuff they can do these days.
awaits 400 PHers telling me yeah whats wrong with that
Silent1 said:
nonegreen said:
Didnt know we dropped a bomb on chrernobyl I thought that was a daft russian trying to impress his boss by overiding 20 sets of safety interlocks any one of which would have prevented the problem. However yes the CND people are completely barking, possibly due to their medication.
I have at least 10 friends who served in american subs who have been involved in collisions so its very common, or at leasst it used to be.
"I thought that was a daft russian trying to impress his boss by overiding 20 sets of safety interlocks any one of which would have prevented the problem."I have at least 10 friends who served in american subs who have been involved in collisions so its very common, or at leasst it used to be.
Err, no.
It was a test of the safety systems done by someone with no training on a nuclear power station (only coal), as the test was supposed to be done in the daytime when the fully trained crew were on, they didn't have time to do it, so asked the night skeleton crew to do it, because of their lack of training it led to them making some critical errors, such as turning the coolant flow off, etc and due to the design of the reactor, when the water boiled off the core became more efficient, not less like every other design in the world and the rest is history.
nonegreen said:
Silent1 said:
nonegreen said:
Didnt know we dropped a bomb on chrernobyl I thought that was a daft russian trying to impress his boss by overiding 20 sets of safety interlocks any one of which would have prevented the problem. However yes the CND people are completely barking, possibly due to their medication.
I have at least 10 friends who served in american subs who have been involved in collisions so its very common, or at leasst it used to be.
"I thought that was a daft russian trying to impress his boss by overiding 20 sets of safety interlocks any one of which would have prevented the problem."I have at least 10 friends who served in american subs who have been involved in collisions so its very common, or at leasst it used to be.
Err, no.
It was a test of the safety systems done by someone with no training on a nuclear power station (only coal), as the test was supposed to be done in the daytime when the fully trained crew were on, they didn't have time to do it, so asked the night skeleton crew to do it, because of their lack of training it led to them making some critical errors, such as turning the coolant flow off, etc and due to the design of the reactor, when the water boiled off the core became more efficient, not less like every other design in the world and the rest is history.
We should be celebrating this incedent.
Two near invisible vessles loaded with Nukes and powered by a nuke reactor collide in the middle of the Ocean, and yet no one died and they are not leaking dayglo green goo (apparantly).
The news could have been devestaing. Hundreds of lives lost as sea in terrible circumstances. Dozens of unrecoverable Nukes, reactors exposed to the murky depths, poisoning the seas, two boats that cost billions of £'s each lost. The possible further consequences for our nuke fleet as well.
The accident was likely unavoidable, such is the advance in sub technology (they are not supposed to be seen underwater after all). Its a big ocean but they only use a very tiny percentage of it (the top few hundred feet or so generally) and would be sent to patrol specific regions of interest that would mean overlapping patrols.
I'm surprised it hasnt happened before. The sky is big, we use 50,000+ feet of it for planes, and they broadcast their preseance and are monitored, you can even look out the window at the front, yet still collisions are inevitable. Collisions of subs are certainly equally as likely I'd have thought.
So we should celebrate this good news. No one died. It was lucky to say the least. But it could have been so much worse. Could have been the worse day in our Navies history, a bleak and dark period for our country, and the very worse kind of news to have had to deal with given present moral of the nation.
But it wasnt, thank God. A little bit of body work and alls well by the sound of it.
Two near invisible vessles loaded with Nukes and powered by a nuke reactor collide in the middle of the Ocean, and yet no one died and they are not leaking dayglo green goo (apparantly).
The news could have been devestaing. Hundreds of lives lost as sea in terrible circumstances. Dozens of unrecoverable Nukes, reactors exposed to the murky depths, poisoning the seas, two boats that cost billions of £'s each lost. The possible further consequences for our nuke fleet as well.
The accident was likely unavoidable, such is the advance in sub technology (they are not supposed to be seen underwater after all). Its a big ocean but they only use a very tiny percentage of it (the top few hundred feet or so generally) and would be sent to patrol specific regions of interest that would mean overlapping patrols.
I'm surprised it hasnt happened before. The sky is big, we use 50,000+ feet of it for planes, and they broadcast their preseance and are monitored, you can even look out the window at the front, yet still collisions are inevitable. Collisions of subs are certainly equally as likely I'd have thought.
So we should celebrate this good news. No one died. It was lucky to say the least. But it could have been so much worse. Could have been the worse day in our Navies history, a bleak and dark period for our country, and the very worse kind of news to have had to deal with given present moral of the nation.
But it wasnt, thank God. A little bit of body work and alls well by the sound of it.
If youre interested in Subs, near misses (and potential global death!) I recommend reading 'Blind Mans Bluff' by Sherry Sontag.
Amazon link here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine...
This type of thing was a regular occurence during the Cold War with the constant games of cat and mouse with the American and Russian subs.
Incredible stories of bravery and following orders, even to certain death.
Amazon link here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine...
This type of thing was a regular occurence during the Cold War with the constant games of cat and mouse with the American and Russian subs.
Incredible stories of bravery and following orders, even to certain death.
Silent1 said:
nonegreen said:
Silent1 said:
nonegreen said:
Didnt know we dropped a bomb on chrernobyl I thought that was a daft russian trying to impress his boss by overiding 20 sets of safety interlocks any one of which would have prevented the problem. However yes the CND people are completely barking, possibly due to their medication.
I have at least 10 friends who served in american subs who have been involved in collisions so its very common, or at leasst it used to be.
"I thought that was a daft russian trying to impress his boss by overiding 20 sets of safety interlocks any one of which would have prevented the problem."I have at least 10 friends who served in american subs who have been involved in collisions so its very common, or at leasst it used to be.
Err, no.
It was a test of the safety systems done by someone with no training on a nuclear power station (only coal), as the test was supposed to be done in the daytime when the fully trained crew were on, they didn't have time to do it, so asked the night skeleton crew to do it, because of their lack of training it led to them making some critical errors, such as turning the coolant flow off, etc and due to the design of the reactor, when the water boiled off the core became more efficient, not less like every other design in the world and the rest is history.
Was the Russian daft or not? I think he was
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