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fathomfive

9,927 posts

191 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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Sciroccology said:
fathomfive said:
Sciroccology said:
fathomfive said:
I accidentally deleted my post before
"Accidentally". Yeah, right.
hehe It's true. Honest.

I was aiming for the 'edit' button and got confused by my night vision. They all look the same from this high up. I couldn't be certain. I had a mission. It is an easy mistake to make, even for an experienced PH'er. Do I need to be re-certified before I'm allowed to fly post again? wink
You can be my wing-man anytime.
Just so long as I get the Admirals daughter.

Rotary Madness

2,285 posts

187 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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I bet that was a laugh being sat in there:ekke: This may come across as odd but id have love to been sat in there when it happened, well as long as i wasnt hit hehe

Didnt someone go a drop a bomb in afarmers field in yorkshire somewhere a few years ago "accidentally"? scratchchin

triggersbroom

2,376 posts

205 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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fathomfive said:
Just so long as I get the Admirals daughter.
y2blade said:
the in-car CCTV picked this up at the time of the incident

^^^^^ I think he beat you to it tongue out

fathomfive

9,927 posts

191 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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triggersbroom said:
fathomfive said:
Just so long as I get the Admirals daughter.
y2blade said:
the in-car CCTV picked this up at the time of the incident

^^^^^ I think he beat you to it tongue out
Seaman Stains more like. hehe

triggersbroom

2,376 posts

205 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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fathomfive said:
triggersbroom said:
fathomfive said:
Just so long as I get the Admirals daughter.
y2blade said:
the in-car CCTV picked this up at the time of the incident

^^^^^ I think he beat you to it tongue out
Seaman Stains more like. hehe
Note the perfectly to hand tissue box rofl

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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Don1 said:
Yanks and friendly fire. You would have thought they would have learnt by now...
It certainly is a good thing Brits never do friendly fire, isn't it? wink

ETA: The car company could sell that ride to some wannabe gangsta' types; you know, the kind that put those fake adhesive bullet holes on their cars.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 26th February 18:12

Nolar Dog

8,786 posts

196 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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Don't use that term! "Friendly fire".

It sounds like the fking BBC in here.

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

249 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Nolar Dog said:
Don't use that term! "Friendly fire".
No such thing, if its hitting you its definatley not friendly.

tank slapper

7,949 posts

284 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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rhinochopig said:
Ok wrong target entirely, but that's an impressive grouping from 1.5 miles away. Some people would struggle to achieve that with a sniper rifle, laid flat and motionless - never mind doing 400kts at several hundred feet.
The 20mm gun on an F-16 can fire 100 rounds per second, so it isn't that surprising they land close together. hehe

gazza_3

6,371 posts

209 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Nothing A bit of T-cut can't fix.

RB Will

9,666 posts

241 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Has anyone else noticed it's Big Bubbas trailer? (in yellow by the front wheel)

JonRB

74,615 posts

273 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Now if it had been a film, the occupants would have been perfectly safe inside there. smile

Mr Whippy

29,071 posts

242 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Now I'm far from an expert, but that doesn't look like it's been hit by 20mm rounds.

I have a book about the A10 Thunderbolt and they stick old vans/cars on the ranges and the holes look just like normal smaller bullet holes in cars, just much bigger (lots of pictures)

Unless this was some weird training ammo!?

scratchchin

THX138

483 posts

194 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Mr Whippy said:
Now I'm far from an expert, but that doesn't look like it's been hit by 20mm rounds.

I have a book about the A10 Thunderbolt and they stick old vans/cars on the ranges and the holes look just like normal smaller bullet holes in cars, just much bigger (lots of pictures)

Unless this was some weird training ammo!?

scratchchin
A10 has a 30mm cannon not 20mm - big big difference in destructive capability

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

249 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Mr Whippy said:
Now I'm far from an expert, but that doesn't look like it's been hit by 20mm rounds.

I have a book about the A10 Thunderbolt and they stick old vans/cars on the ranges and the holes look just like normal smaller bullet holes in cars, just much bigger (lots of pictures)

Unless this was some weird training ammo!?

scratchchin
My understanding ;
Reason being that the 30mm in the A10 is designed to cut through tanks with its armour piercing ammunition. The 20mm rounds fired by a vulcan cannon as fitted to a F16 explode on impact as they are designed to cut other thin skinned aircraft in two.


Mr Whippy

29,071 posts

242 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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IanMorewood said:
Mr Whippy said:
Now I'm far from an expert, but that doesn't look like it's been hit by 20mm rounds.

I have a book about the A10 Thunderbolt and they stick old vans/cars on the ranges and the holes look just like normal smaller bullet holes in cars, just much bigger (lots of pictures)

Unless this was some weird training ammo!?

scratchchin
My understanding ;
Reason being that the 30mm in the A10 is designed to cut through tanks with its armour piercing ammunition. The 20mm rounds fired by a vulcan cannon as fitted to a F16 explode on impact as they are designed to cut other thin skinned aircraft in two.
Yeah I assumed that, but it still looks wrong.

I've shot at lots of metal things with lots of different types of guns (mis-spent youth on a farm), and they never look like that, which looks more like someone has hit it with a big fencing mallet.

Also, didn't the A10 fire every 3rd a DU round, and the other two HE rounds (maybe not on practice runs as per my photos in the book!?)

I still call fake smile

philthy

4,689 posts

241 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Easy mistake to make, American cars are designed like Armoured personnel carriers !

jeff m

4,060 posts

259 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Obviously 20mm ball or training rounds, I would hope.biggrin

I suspect this could be a reserve piot although it doesn't state such.
We had an incident in NJ a couple of years ago. A reserve pilot who was supposed to be attacking FortDix/Maguire missed and hit NJsmile
Result was a rather large forest fire, roads impassable due to smoke and some houses reduced to charcoal. No fatalities.
I beleive that guy was a col.(res.)


Ft Dix/Maguire is quite a large target. BTW

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

249 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Mr Whippy said:
IanMorewood said:
Mr Whippy said:
Now I'm far from an expert, but that doesn't look like it's been hit by 20mm rounds.

I have a book about the A10 Thunderbolt and they stick old vans/cars on the ranges and the holes look just like normal smaller bullet holes in cars, just much bigger (lots of pictures)

Unless this was some weird training ammo!?

scratchchin
My understanding ;
Reason being that the 30mm in the A10 is designed to cut through tanks with its armour piercing ammunition. The 20mm rounds fired by a vulcan cannon as fitted to a F16 explode on impact as they are designed to cut other thin skinned aircraft in two.
Yeah I assumed that, but it still looks wrong.

I've shot at lots of metal things with lots of different types of guns (mis-spent youth on a farm), and they never look like that, which looks more like someone has hit it with a big fencing mallet.

Also, didn't the A10 fire every 3rd a DU round, and the other two HE rounds (maybe not on practice runs as per my photos in the book!?)

I still call fake smile
My understanding was load on an A10 was all AP be that DU or Tungsten (tungsten used to reduce handling/storage risks), you could be thinking about the 30mm system the Apache uses that fired AP HEI HEI AP HEI HEI. Its possible the rounds would be interchangeable but a mixed load in a gattling gun arrangement I think you would have load/recoil issues.

Invisible man

39,731 posts

285 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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The thing would be a smoking crater if it had been hit with live ammo, we used iron ammo on the range so I'm sure the yanks do too