erm....woooops...... USAF

[Mr Whippy]

IanMorewood said:

Mr Whippy said:

IanMorewood said:

Mr Whippy said:

Now I'm far from an expert, but that doesn't look like it's been hit by 20mm rounds.

I have a book about the A10 Thunderbolt and they stick old vans/cars on the ranges and the holes look just like normal smaller bullet holes in cars, just much bigger (lots of pictures)

Unless this was some weird training ammo!?

My understanding ;
Reason being that the 30mm in the A10 is designed to cut through tanks with its armour piercing ammunition. The 20mm rounds fired by a vulcan cannon as fitted to a F16 explode on impact as they are designed to cut other thin skinned aircraft in two.

Yeah I assumed that, but it still looks wrong.

I've shot at lots of metal things with lots of different types of guns (mis-spent youth on a farm), and they never look like that, which looks more like someone has hit it with a big fencing mallet.

Also, didn't the A10 fire every 3rd a DU round, and the other two HE rounds (maybe not on practice runs as per my photos in the book!?)

I still call fake

My understanding was load on an A10 was all AP be that DU or Tungsten (tungsten used to reduce handling/storage risks), you could be thinking about the 30mm system the Apache uses that fired AP HEI HEI AP HEI HEI. Its possible the rounds would be interchangeable but a mixed load in a gattling gun arrangement I think you would have load/recoil issues.

Ah thats probably the case yes. Long time since I read the book (have all the In Combat series too, hehe)

Erm, still looks very wrong to me. No burn marks or shrapnel marks. If they had been HE rounds on a normal 'soft' target with that much damage, you'd imagine they'd have been hit by a few pieces.

I still call fake...

Dave

[collateral]

A mate's uncle flew A-10s.

He's got a 30mm casing with a sticker on it saying 'if you want the rest of this, ask Saddam for it back'. Never got to run a Geiger counter over it, but I told him it probably wasn't the safest thing to be using as a shot glass...

[rhinochopig]

collateral said:

A mate's uncle flew A-10s.

He's got a 30mm casing with a sticker on it saying 'if you want the rest of this, ask Saddam for it back'. Never got to run a Geiger counter over it, but I told him it probably wasn't the safest thing to be using as a shot glass...

He must be a piss head then as they're huge. Very very occasionally you would find them on certain beaches on NE coast as there is an off-shore range there. You'd also get hundreds of greeny blue plastic bomb/missile?? carcasses washed up. I used to collect them as a kid. In fact I think my folks still have a couple in their garden.

[Mr Whippy]

I have a nice 27mm from the Tornado cannon, with a test round stuck in the end (was blue banded, apparently test)

I thought depleted uranium rounds were not actually THAT radioactive, hence the name depleted!?

Just the dust from them that was bad if you went sniffing around inside tanks hit with the ammo?

Dave

[BruceV8]

Mr Whippy said:

I thought depleted uranium rounds were not actually THAT radioactive, hence the name depleted!?

Just the dust from them that was bad if you went sniffing around inside tanks hit with the ammo?

Dave

Correct. Even enriched uranium is a very low emitter. DU is negligible. Plus theres none in the cartridge case.

[mko9]

They wouldn't be firing DU or HEI on the range.

[Invisible man]

mko9 said:

They wouldn't be firing DU or HEI on the range.

I've said as much....twice in fact, it doesn't seem to register

[rhinochopig]

Invisible man said:

mko9 said:

They wouldn't be firing DU or HEI on the range.

I've said as much....twice in fact, it doesn't seem to register

Perhaps it's your name.

[Mr Whippy]

Invisible man said:

mko9 said:

They wouldn't be firing DU or HEI on the range.

I've said as much....twice in fact, it doesn't seem to register

So it's not really been hit, because it'd be just standard dumb rounds that leave nice holes as you'd expect, not ones shaped like a big mallet or hammer, or forklift prong (the list goes on)

Dave

[Scuffers]

rhinochopig said:

collateral said:

A mate's uncle flew A-10s.

He's got a 30mm casing with a sticker on it saying 'if you want the rest of this, ask Saddam for it back'. Never got to run a Geiger counter over it, but I told him it probably wasn't the safest thing to be using as a shot glass...

He must be a piss head then as they're huge. Very very occasionally you would find them on certain beaches on NE coast as there is an off-shore range there. You'd also get hundreds of greeny blue plastic bomb/missile?? carcasses washed up. I used to collect them as a kid. In fact I think my folks still have a couple in their garden.

they won't be from an A10, it does not eject the spent casings, they are spun back into the magazine.

[Langweilig]

Moths!

Edited by Langweilig on Saturday 28th February 15:42

[V8mate]

Mr Whippy said:

Now I'm far from an expert, but that doesn't look like it's been hit by 20mm rounds.

I have a book about the A10 Thunderbolt and they stick old vans/cars on the ranges and the holes look just like normal smaller bullet holes in cars, just much bigger (lots of pictures)

Unless this was some weird training ammo!?

The bullet holes are on the other side of the vehicle.

The holes you can see were made by the occupants trying to kick their way out as their pants were filling up.

[Jimbeaux]

rhinochopig said:

Invisible man said:

mko9 said:

They wouldn't be firing DU or HEI on the range.

I've said as much....twice in fact, it doesn't seem to register

Perhaps it's your name.