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San Diego Naval Base today. Snapped by my wife from the car window on the Coronado bridge, so not ideal. So many ships lined up! Assault ship USS Boxer in the foreground (thought it was an aircraft carrier at first glance, but then realised it was far too small!), with (part of) stealth destroyer USS Zumwalt immediately behind (God, that stood out like a sore thumb!). Then a distant shot of North Island Naval Air Station, Coronado, from a street corner - no idea which aircraft carrier it is in the background…
This is not an early 1940s photograph of the British aircraft carrier HMS Hermes.
That is actually the Fleet Tender C, or SS Mamari III as it was before being taken over by the Navy, disguised as HMS Hermes to fool the Germans. It seemed to do the trick as it was attacked off the East coast of the UK in June 1941, whilst evading the German aircraft it hit a submerged wreck of the SS Ahamo (sunk by a mine in April 1941) and ran aground. Before it could be refloated it was torpedoed by German E boats and the wreck was left there.
The mast sticking out of the water in front if it is from the Ahamo.
The real HMS Hermes (lost in April 1942, Indian Ocean)
That is actually the Fleet Tender C, or SS Mamari III as it was before being taken over by the Navy, disguised as HMS Hermes to fool the Germans. It seemed to do the trick as it was attacked off the East coast of the UK in June 1941, whilst evading the German aircraft it hit a submerged wreck of the SS Ahamo (sunk by a mine in April 1941) and ran aground. Before it could be refloated it was torpedoed by German E boats and the wreck was left there.
The mast sticking out of the water in front if it is from the Ahamo.
The real HMS Hermes (lost in April 1942, Indian Ocean)
PushedDover said:
great pics, but just shows how insanely disproportionate the cruise ships are to the locations they can go park their arses on.
No greeny beardy weirdy, but it seems very unbalanced from many perspectives.
Indeed. And they've had to dredge a deep channel, likely through a coral reef, to get even that close. No greeny beardy weirdy, but it seems very unbalanced from many perspectives.
I am not convinced cruise ships are a good thing for many of these places, probably why Venice has looked to ban them.
Ash_ said:
Likeomg said:
Back onboard doing my 15 days of quarantine so getting some flying in...
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Where is that location? Looks beautiful.Snipped the pics
MiniMan64 said:
Its something Key isn't it? Somewhere between Florida and the Bahamas? There a documentary about it a few months ago, I think the company who own the boat also own the island.
It looks like here https://goo.gl/maps/yhMQjZhrythycRdx5It also looks more like Thorpe Park than beautiful.
Flying Phil said:
I'm sure those cruise ships comply with the regulations, but there don't seem to be enough room in those lifeboats for what 3,000 people? I'm also surprised that they don't get blown over in very strong winds....
was one of my concerns before I went on a cruise (not specifically blowing over) hardly even felt like we were at seaSorry for the late replies...
Yes it's our privately owned / leased island in the Bahamas "coco cay"
The island is one thing only - a destination for the vessel, no natives live here other than our on island staff. that's the tallest water park in North America.
And no dredging required, it used to be tender only for many years (25+) but tendering on these bigger ships isn't practical nor is tendering when the swell picks up so with the theme park etc investment in the island a designated pier was built.
Yes, we have more than enough live saving capacity onboard... Always blows my mind away when something like Grenfel happens, as the inspections / bureaucracy we go through and continually go through to get a ship in operation is ridiculous. having just done my second new build.
Modern vessels are ridiculously stable, put it this way, we can dip the lifeboats in the water and still self right. modern cruise ships can typically roll to 45degrees and come upright. I don't have the specifics for this ship to hand but my last ship was around 48 degrees before it lost stability and it becomes uncertain if she'd come back up right.
A full speed, hard over rudder only gives a list of 4-5 degrees. I wouldn't worry about it too much if I was you.
Edit - and the capacity is 7173
almost double your guess of 3k. my last vessel was 8880.
Yes it's our privately owned / leased island in the Bahamas "coco cay"
The island is one thing only - a destination for the vessel, no natives live here other than our on island staff. that's the tallest water park in North America.
And no dredging required, it used to be tender only for many years (25+) but tendering on these bigger ships isn't practical nor is tendering when the swell picks up so with the theme park etc investment in the island a designated pier was built.
Yes, we have more than enough live saving capacity onboard... Always blows my mind away when something like Grenfel happens, as the inspections / bureaucracy we go through and continually go through to get a ship in operation is ridiculous. having just done my second new build.
Modern vessels are ridiculously stable, put it this way, we can dip the lifeboats in the water and still self right. modern cruise ships can typically roll to 45degrees and come upright. I don't have the specifics for this ship to hand but my last ship was around 48 degrees before it lost stability and it becomes uncertain if she'd come back up right.
A full speed, hard over rudder only gives a list of 4-5 degrees. I wouldn't worry about it too much if I was you.
Edit - and the capacity is 7173
almost double your guess of 3k. my last vessel was 8880. Edited by Likeomg on Friday 23 July 03:09
Likeomg said:
I drive the thing, im not in marketing 
But it's actually quite a fun destination, the hot air balloon goes up I think 500ft, amazing views and the jet ski's are particularly fun.
Up to what conditions can she stay alongside that berth, it looks like it could be fairly exposed? But it's actually quite a fun destination, the hot air balloon goes up I think 500ft, amazing views and the jet ski's are particularly fun.
I have little experience in the Caribbean, but some of it has been lumpy and windy to say the least.
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