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addams said:
Depends on the ship design.
There is always access to the holds, but frequently there will be a large number of containers that can't be accessed, especially on the newer ships where they try to squeeze as many boxes in as possible so don't want to waste space for accessing things!
This can be an advantage, was on a ship once which loaded several containers of blank bank-note paper which obviously might be an attractive thing for people to steal. It was all loaded in positions that couldn't be accessed without cutting holes in the ship so that we couldn't access it en route!
The holds will probably have fixed fire fighting arrangements in place, usually CO2 systems although I have also seen sprinkler systems on some older ships.
So if there is a fire then flood the hold with CO2 and hope that works!
Thanks for the informative reply! I work in aviation and very similar procedures are in force here. I've transported many a pallet of gold bullion, a few holds full of bank notes, a few priceless pieces of art, a fair quantity of class-A narcotics and quite a lot of donor organs. Weirdly the art was the only item which had an entourage on board to make sure it was loaded and transported correctly.There is always access to the holds, but frequently there will be a large number of containers that can't be accessed, especially on the newer ships where they try to squeeze as many boxes in as possible so don't want to waste space for accessing things!
This can be an advantage, was on a ship once which loaded several containers of blank bank-note paper which obviously might be an attractive thing for people to steal. It was all loaded in positions that couldn't be accessed without cutting holes in the ship so that we couldn't access it en route!
The holds will probably have fixed fire fighting arrangements in place, usually CO2 systems although I have also seen sprinkler systems on some older ships.
So if there is a fire then flood the hold with CO2 and hope that works!
naturals said:
Thanks for the informative reply! I work in aviation and very similar procedures are in force here. I've transported many a pallet of gold bullion, a few holds full of bank notes, a few priceless pieces of art, a fair quantity of class-A narcotics and quite a lot of donor organs. Weirdly the art was the only item which had an entourage on board to make sure it was loaded and transported correctly.
I imagine the rules are probably pretty similar, although I have no experience of the aviation side of things.Mostly we didn't know what was in all the metal boxes, the only ones we were routinely told the contents of were the Dangerous Cargo (DG) and Refrigerated (Reefer) containers plus a few other special cases like wet hides (because they leak all over the place
)We occasionally found out the contents of the other ones, but that was often when they leaked, were damaged or the idiot shippers put a label on the outside with the contents listed!
My favourite one was the fully operational anti-ship missile in a container. It had to be loaded on the aft-most bay facing the correct way so that if it accidently went off it would launch astern of us! There were a few times I hoped it would launch at another ship that had been annoying, but it never happened.
My most interesting container cargoes:
Auckland to Japan - Flat bed container with a fuselage section of a Mitsubishi Zero.
That was interesting and all of us managed to get up there to have a look!
Charleston SC to Algeciras - 40’ reefer box, hatch cover snagged on it’s way off & punctured the side of it, full of Frozen Lobster.
Managed to save as much as possible into the ship’s freezer.
No issues from the company as the whole box was written off and it wasn’t our fault as the crane driver wasn’t central before lifting.
It is possible to become sick to death of eating Lobster!
Singapore to Cape Town - 20’ box arrived on board with the tag removed or missing.
I spotted it & took pictures etc etc.
Someone from ashore to decided we should just sail with it & sort it out at the other end, presumably they’d do all the leg work & make sure papers etc were prepared for it to be inspected when discharged.
Every single member of the crew looked very smart indeed when it transpired it was full of Tommy Hilfiger shirts.
Auckland to Japan - Flat bed container with a fuselage section of a Mitsubishi Zero.
That was interesting and all of us managed to get up there to have a look!
Charleston SC to Algeciras - 40’ reefer box, hatch cover snagged on it’s way off & punctured the side of it, full of Frozen Lobster.
Managed to save as much as possible into the ship’s freezer.
No issues from the company as the whole box was written off and it wasn’t our fault as the crane driver wasn’t central before lifting.
It is possible to become sick to death of eating Lobster!
Singapore to Cape Town - 20’ box arrived on board with the tag removed or missing.
I spotted it & took pictures etc etc.
Someone from ashore to decided we should just sail with it & sort it out at the other end, presumably they’d do all the leg work & make sure papers etc were prepared for it to be inspected when discharged.
Every single member of the crew looked very smart indeed when it transpired it was full of Tommy Hilfiger shirts.
naturals said:
Thanks for the informative reply! I work in aviation and very similar procedures are in force here. I've transported many a pallet of gold bullion, a few holds full of bank notes, a few priceless pieces of art, a fair quantity of class-A narcotics and quite a lot of donor organs. Weirdly the art was the only item which had an entourage on board to make sure it was loaded and transported correctly.
A place I worked at in 2012 sent some artwork and a few documents to Singapore to be displayed at an anniversary exhibition.Somebody from our collections team (sadly not my dept) was required to travel with the various items.
It was amusing that a removal truck turned up to take the stuff away given that it could've fitted in a large suitcase.
5 In a Row said:
A place I worked at in 2012 sent some artwork and a few documents to Singapore to be displayed at an anniversary exhibition.
Somebody from our collections team (sadly not my dept) was required to travel with the various items.
It was amusing that a removal truck turned up to take the stuff away given that it could've fitted in a large suitcase.
Yeah, there were two of these people on our flight. They stood on the airbridge and watched it go onto the aircraft. We weren't allowed to close the doors until they were personally told by the loading team it was in the hold and secured. They then took their seats and we departed. We asked what the artwork was but were firmly told they were not allowed to disclose it. Googled their names and found out they were world experts in this particular (household name) artist, but never found out which work it was they were moving. I suspect the value was into the hundreds of millions based on the artist. Somebody from our collections team (sadly not my dept) was required to travel with the various items.
It was amusing that a removal truck turned up to take the stuff away given that it could've fitted in a large suitcase.
yellowjack said:
Some "flying" boats...
Snipped pics
...which the RAF seem to have lobbed out of the back of an A400 Atlas on a parachute (or two), along with some RM/SBS types who then brought them back to Poole Harbour.
Were the RM/SBS types riding in the boats all the way down or did they jump separately?Snipped pics
...which the RAF seem to have lobbed out of the back of an A400 Atlas on a parachute (or two), along with some RM/SBS types who then brought them back to Poole Harbour.
naturals said:
5 In a Row said:
A place I worked at in 2012 sent some artwork and a few documents to Singapore to be displayed at an anniversary exhibition.
Somebody from our collections team (sadly not my dept) was required to travel with the various items.
It was amusing that a removal truck turned up to take the stuff away given that it could've fitted in a large suitcase.
Yeah, there were two of these people on our flight. They stood on the airbridge and watched it go onto the aircraft. We weren't allowed to close the doors until they were personally told by the loading team it was in the hold and secured. They then took their seats and we departed. We asked what the artwork was but were firmly told they were not allowed to disclose it. Googled their names and found out they were world experts in this particular (household name) artist, but never found out which work it was they were moving. I suspect the value was into the hundreds of millions based on the artist. Somebody from our collections team (sadly not my dept) was required to travel with the various items.
It was amusing that a removal truck turned up to take the stuff away given that it could've fitted in a large suitcase.
Ash_ said:
yellowjack said:
Some "flying" boats...
Snipped pics
...which the RAF seem to have lobbed out of the back of an A400 Atlas on a parachute (or two), along with some RM/SBS types who then brought them back to Poole Harbour.
Were the RM/SBS types riding in the boats all the way down or did they jump separately?Snipped pics
...which the RAF seem to have lobbed out of the back of an A400 Atlas on a parachute (or two), along with some RM/SBS types who then brought them back to Poole Harbour.
yellowjack said:
Ash_ said:
yellowjack said:
Some "flying" boats...
Snipped pics
...which the RAF seem to have lobbed out of the back of an A400 Atlas on a parachute (or two), along with some RM/SBS types who then brought them back to Poole Harbour.
Were the RM/SBS types riding in the boats all the way down or did they jump separately?Snipped pics
...which the RAF seem to have lobbed out of the back of an A400 Atlas on a parachute (or two), along with some RM/SBS types who then brought them back to Poole Harbour.
Ash_ said:
yellowjack said:
Ash_ said:
yellowjack said:
Some "flying" boats...
Snipped pics
...which the RAF seem to have lobbed out of the back of an A400 Atlas on a parachute (or two), along with some RM/SBS types who then brought them back to Poole Harbour.
Were the RM/SBS types riding in the boats all the way down or did they jump separately?Snipped pics
...which the RAF seem to have lobbed out of the back of an A400 Atlas on a parachute (or two), along with some RM/SBS types who then brought them back to Poole Harbour.
Take a look at RAAF Amberely, switch to satellite view.... Aussies are packing some serious punch these days!
https://maps.app.goo.gl/LMJxNPm3X5mZy98e6
https://maps.app.goo.gl/LMJxNPm3X5mZy98e6
Sorry for the Wail link, Jeff Bezos's new sailing boat is undergoing testing and sea trials. $500m per unit.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11815825/...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11815825/...
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