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Eric Mc

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122,110 posts

266 months

Thursday 1st October 2009
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In years gone by I would have just painted the entire framework the exterior camouflage colour. Sometimes, when you look REALLY closely at airraft (either period pictures or in the flesh) you realise that some of what you thought might be obvious isn't so obvious after all.

Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 1st October 16:36

Jem Thompson

930 posts

183 months

Thursday 1st October 2009
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Pretty impressive stuff there Eric. I am looking to build one or two models just to have in my room, currently considering a Revell BA Concorde, it looks reasonably simple for my fist attempt.

Nick_F

10,154 posts

247 months

Thursday 1st October 2009
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Shar2 said:
CobolMan said:
Eric Mc said:
The 1/48 Airfix Vulcan is probably a bit of a myth. I think it would be slightly on the enormous size and would be fairly expensive - around £100 I would think.
You're right there Eric, I think it was a hoax pulled at one of the trade shows late last year/early this year - there were pictures of the 'box' in SAMI earlier this year.
Yeah! but don't forget that most people thought that the 1/24 mosquito would never be put into production. True a 1/48 Vulcan would be pretty darn big.
What happened tothe huge range of 1/48 stuff that Monogram used to do? I remember building Spitfire, P51, P47, B17, B29 (enormous) and Shuttle (equally enormous) and hankering after B24 and B36.

Eric Mc

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Thursday 1st October 2009
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Some of those models are still in production - but badged as Revell. Revell bought Monogram a few years ago and continue to release ex-Monogram models.

The Revell situation is rather complicated as there are now, in effect, two separate companies using the name. The original Revell USA still exists (and owns the old Monogram moulds) but doesn't release much in the way of new moulds themselves.

In Germany, Revell Gmbh is now an entirely separate company to Revell USA and pays the American company a licence fee for the use of the name.
Revell Gmbh has been exteremely prolific over the past 18 years or so and produces some of the best new mouldings anywhere to be found. However, being linked to the original Revell USA, they also produce some of the old American stuff which can be rather ancient and iffy by today's standards So, you have to be a bit careful when buying.
In addition, Revell Gmbh have bought lots of old moulds from defunct model producers. You can get ex-FROG and ex-Matchbox models in Revell boxings. For example, they have very recently released the old Matchbox North American T-2 Buckeye - which is a nice, but basic, kit.

MartG

20,707 posts

205 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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Well I've kind of started on my pair of Airfix Saturn V kits ( 1 to be built as standard, the 2nd as Skylab ) - looking at them I got to thinking that they could do with the 1st stage engines being replaced with ones with the insulation fitted as on the flight items. While there are reasonable replacement engines available in 1/96, the only 1/144 ones didn't look particularly accurate to me ( and the engine bells aren't hollow ), so I've made my first foray into resin casting.

My efforts used a modified Airfix F-1 engine as the master, from which I made a two part silicone rubber mould - two part so I could make the engine bell hollow as per the original kit engines. I also made a new aft heatshield for the engines to attach to, as the kit item has ribs which aren't there on the real thing.

The kit of parts


As test fitted, after painting


I made an extra set, which is currently on ebay, but if anyone is interested in a set just drop me a line - I reckon I can do them for £13 inc. delivery in the UK

Now to have a look at the 2nd stage thrust structure - the best I can say of the kit item is that it isn't as bad as the Monogram one !

Edited by MartG on Sunday 1st November 14:57

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 28th October 2009
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re you using an original mould Airfix Saturn V or are you using the recently released updated moulding?

MartG

20,707 posts

205 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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It's the re-released one, though apart from the SLA, SM and BPC they are identical to the original ones

Eric Mc

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266 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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I bought the re-issue a few weeks ago. I haven't started on it yet.

I have a Saturn 1B to do as well.

MartG

20,707 posts

205 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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Eric Mc said:
I have a Saturn 1B to do as well.
So do I - a Real Space models resin one - I sold my Airfix one as it's very inaccurate compared to the Real Space one

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 28th October 2009
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MartG said:
Eric Mc said:
I have a Saturn 1B to do as well.
So do I - a Real Space models resin one - I sold my Airfix one as it's very inaccurate compared to the Real Space one
I was thinking of doing it as one of the unmanned test flights. I understand one Saturn 1B was launched with a Block 1 Command/Service Module on the top.

MartG

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205 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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The RealSpace 1B comes with parts and decals for every 1B built - including a correct diameter Block 1 Apollo CSM, a Block 2 CSM, and the two different nosecones used on flights that didn't have a CSM. I'd like to build one of each variant, but at $100 a pop plus import duty and postage I think it would get a little expensive :-)

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 28th October 2009
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That's what puts me off the RealsSpace range - they are just so expensive.

MartG

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205 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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Which is why I'm seriously thinking of making/casting my own - I'd also like to do a 1B in 1/96 scale to match the Revell Saturn V

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 28th October 2009
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Being covered in various other threads (and forums).

dr_gn

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185 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Being covered in various other threads (and forums).
Oh good! Which ones?

MartG

20,707 posts

205 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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I've been casting again - more bits for the 1/144 Saturn V

Revised 2nd stage thrust structure - the kit one has the engines too far apart, and doesn't show the fuel pipes or electronics boxes



Also, when Airfix fixed the SM to the correct diameter, they didn't do anything with the CM, which means it doesn't fit the Boost cover anymore ( and looks very undersized ). They also persisted with the original SPS engine nozzle, which is the wrong shape. So, a couple of castings to fix those problems - the new CM fits the revised BPC and the nozzle is now the right shape.



Made a few spares too, which are now up on ebay

perdu

4,884 posts

200 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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lovely work Mart

Simpo Two

85,697 posts

266 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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I fondly remember making the 1B, V and also this chap:




I have a vague memory that the Saturn V carried a little LEM folded up inside - or did I dream it?

Skywalker

3,269 posts

215 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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Simpo Two said:



I have a vague memory that the Saturn V carried a little LEM folded up inside - or did I dream it?
I remember that, with the LEM legs nicely folded up against the descent engine stage.

MartG

20,707 posts

205 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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Skywalker said:
Simpo Two said:



I have a vague memory that the Saturn V carried a little LEM folded up inside - or did I dream it?
I remember that, with the LEM legs nicely folded up against the descent engine stage.
You didn't dream it - there is a tiny one supplied with the Saturn kits - though it appears to be the wrong size