Camouflage patterns?

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dr_gn

16,168 posts

185 months

Sunday 28th June 2009
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deviant said:
I think I will have a look at airbrush kits. I have found that the paint on the Lanc looks a bit 'thick' which has the effect of making the camo pattern look a little childish if you understand? I think I have done a neat enough job but its kid of obvious that its hand painted and not by someone of the same scale as the kit...kind of hard to explain hehe
Have a look at this review, there is a very good description of how to get a fantastic finish and accurate pattern by photocopying the plan and using it as a paint mask (including raising the masks by 2mm in order to get the feathered edges. He also uses a really good technique to darken the area around panel lines by pre-spraying a dark colour along them before the final colour coat:

http://www.modelingmadness.com/reviews/allies/gb/m...

IMHO what sets a great model apart from an average one is weathering, but unfortunately it is more of an art than a mechanical process.

I use my Grandads old DeVilbiss Aerograph Super '63. I noticed you can pick them up relatively cheaply on EBay, however I would liken this brush to a classic car - everything has to be perfectly set up to get the best results. DeVilbiss have recently released the DAGR, which loks promising:

http://www.devilbisseu.com/news.aspx?id=29

I have also heard very good things about the Iwata brushes, which seem to be the benchmark today.

Cheers,

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Sunday 28th June 2009
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Modelingmadness is probably the best site around for reviews of kit building projects. I use it a lot.

Brett Green's Hyperscale is also pretty good - although the model gallery is more of a showcase rather than a step by step build guide. However, the work on both sites is inspirational.

dr_gn

16,168 posts

185 months

Sunday 28th June 2009
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Here's something a bit different:



It's a Guillow's Stearman rubber powered free-flight model made of balsa and vac formed plastic. I left it uncovered and varnished it. I think it looks good. It's hanging in my son's room hence the rabbit pilots. I would love to build one of the large scale WW1 aircraft kits (wood/metal) but they are too expensive, so this will have to do!

Here is current work in progress, it's an Airfix HMS Victory. Just needs the colours toning down, cannon & ports finishing, masts and rigging. Started it in February, it is a rubbish kit, a nightmare to build and paint:





Cheers,

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Sunday 28th June 2009
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You learn far more building a "rubbish" kit than one that simply clicks together.

I am happy as long as the thing goes together with reasonable precision. It doesn't have to be Tamiya perfection. The only kit I've literally given up on because of rotten fit-ability was PM's Focke Wulf Ta-154.

Dunk76

4,350 posts

215 months

Sunday 28th June 2009
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Iwata gravity feed brushes are absolutely superb.

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Sunday 28th June 2009
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Dunk76 said:
Iwata gravity feed brushes are absolutely superb.
Is that from personal experience?

Dunk76

4,350 posts

215 months

Sunday 28th June 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Dunk76 said:
Iwata gravity feed brushes are absolutely superb.
Is that from personal experience?
Yup. wink

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

263 months

Sunday 28th June 2009
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dr_gn

16,168 posts

185 months

Sunday 28th June 2009
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Mojocvh said:
Wow, that would be excellent for dogging.

Eric Mc

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266 months

Sunday 28th June 2009
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Was that scheme done with an Iwata?

Mojocvh

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263 months

Sunday 28th June 2009
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dr_gn said:
Mojocvh said:
Wow, that would be excellent for dogging.
Sure was! laugh


dr_gn

16,168 posts

185 months

Sunday 28th June 2009
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Mojocvh said:
dr_gn said:
Mojocvh said:
Wow, that would be excellent for dogging.
Sure was! laugh

Where was it taken by the way?

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

263 months

Sunday 28th June 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Was that scheme done with an Iwata?
No.

But you may (or may not) like to peruse this (admittedly) commercial site here re-camouflage design basics.

http://www.hydedefinition.com/about.htm


dr_gn

16,168 posts

185 months

Sunday 28th June 2009
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Mojocvh said:
Eric Mc said:
Was that scheme done with an Iwata?
No.

But you may (or may not) like to peruse this (admittedly) commercial site here re-camouflage design basics.

http://www.hydedefinition.com/about.htm
Fascinating reading. It prompted me to look into why the RAF changed from Green/Brown in the early stages of the war, to Green/Grey, and I found this thread:

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=...

Interesting stuff. I often wonder why an elaborate WW2 scheme was overpainted with roundels and squadron markings. Admittedly the colours used in the markings are usually not high contrast wrt the scheme, but still must disrupt the overall effect.

Cheers.

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Monday 29th June 2009
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Although all fighter and ground attack aircraft switched to Ocean Grey/Dark Green in 1942, bombers and transports retained the Matt Earth/Dark Green top colours.

The main alteration to roundel design was the reduction of the white areas to try and reduce the contrast. That also happened in 1942.

In the far east, the red centre was removed completely from the roundel and later on the blue was made broader and the white centre replaced by a light blue centre.