Aircraft radio Frequencies
Discussion
Google "airband frequencies" and you'll get lots.
e.g. http://www.radios-uk.com/airfrequencies.htm
Don't tell anyone, it's illegal for you to listen to it
e.g. http://www.radios-uk.com/airfrequencies.htm
Don't tell anyone, it's illegal for you to listen to it
The CAA publish handy frequency cards:
The Southern:
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/64/DAP_ACD_Freq_ref_sout...
...and the Northern and Scottish.
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/64/DAP_ACD_Freq_north_we...
Obviously, the Northern frequencies tend to be louder than the soft Southern shandy-drinking variety.
The Southern:
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/64/DAP_ACD_Freq_ref_sout...
...and the Northern and Scottish.
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/64/DAP_ACD_Freq_north_we...
Obviously, the Northern frequencies tend to be louder than the soft Southern shandy-drinking variety.
DATIS is an automated transmission of the current weather at a particular airfield, broadcast in a continuous loop. Dial in the DATIS frequency and you'll hear runway in use, wind, altimeter setting pressures, cloud etc. It's updated every hour, or whenever there's a significant change i.e. change of runway in use. First DATIS of the day is 'alpha', then 'bravo' etc, giving an easy way of checking whether there has been any change since you last listened.
DATIS is copied by the crews before start/taxy, and again when airborne before descent on recovery.
DATIS is copied by the crews before start/taxy, and again when airborne before descent on recovery.
speedtwelve said:
DATIS is an automated transmission of the current weather at a particular airfield, broadcast in a continuous loop. Dial in the DATIS frequency and you'll hear runway in use, wind, altimeter setting pressures, cloud etc. It's updated every hour, or whenever there's a significant change i.e. change of runway in use. First DATIS of the day is 'alpha', then 'bravo' etc, giving an easy way of checking whether there has been any change since you last listened.
DATIS is copied by the crews before start/taxy, and again when airborne before descent on recovery.
That's ATISDATIS is copied by the crews before start/taxy, and again when airborne before descent on recovery.
D-ATIS is Digital ATIS or ATIS transmitted via Arinc/Acars etc via text to the aircraft beyond the VHF range of the airport ATIS.
Only major airports have D-ATIS at the moment.
Stovey,
Yep, but in the UK mil DATIS is also used as an abbreviation for D(eparture)ATIS, which is the same as a normal ATIS voice transmission that you mention. Most UK military airfields will refer to ATIS as DATIS, although there's nothing 'digital' about it; certainly this is the case with the Station that I fly from.
Yep, but in the UK mil DATIS is also used as an abbreviation for D(eparture)ATIS, which is the same as a normal ATIS voice transmission that you mention. Most UK military airfields will refer to ATIS as DATIS, although there's nothing 'digital' about it; certainly this is the case with the Station that I fly from.
speedtwelve said:
Stovey,
Yep, but in the UK mil DATIS is also used as an abbreviation for D(eparture)ATIS, which is the same as a normal ATIS voice transmission that you mention. Most UK military airfields will refer to ATIS as DATIS, although there's nothing 'digital' about it; certainly this is the case with the Station that I fly from.
I've not seen that before, which airfields refer to a DATIS that isn't also a digital one?Yep, but in the UK mil DATIS is also used as an abbreviation for D(eparture)ATIS, which is the same as a normal ATIS voice transmission that you mention. Most UK military airfields will refer to ATIS as DATIS, although there's nothing 'digital' about it; certainly this is the case with the Station that I fly from.
Is a DATIS just a normal ATIS that you call DATIS because you happen to be departing or is it referred to as DATIS on aerodrome charts etc? Do you also then have different AATIS for arrivals?
In my Aerad, Jeppessen and UK AIP charts and they refer to D-ATIS as an ATIS which also has a digital element, so you can either listen to it as a VHF transmission or via text from anywhere in the world through ACARS.
If there are airports like Heathrow that are busy enough to require both distinct departure and arrival ATIS will have two different frequencies and be referred to as ATIS(D) or ATIS(A) or ATIS arrival / ATIS departure most other airports just have the one referred to as an ATIS
I suppose the answer to the OPs question will depend on where he read about DATIS then?
Either way the ATIS (D) or otherwise is a transmission with information about the airfield in it.
In my Aerad, Jeppessen and UK AIP charts and they refer to D-ATIS as an ATIS which also has a digital element, so you can either listen to it as a VHF transmission or via text from anywhere in the world through ACARS.
If there are airports like Heathrow that are busy enough to require both distinct departure and arrival ATIS will have two different frequencies and be referred to as ATIS(D) or ATIS(A) or ATIS arrival / ATIS departure most other airports just have the one referred to as an ATIS
I suppose the answer to the OPs question will depend on where he read about DATIS then?
Either way the ATIS (D) or otherwise is a transmission with information about the airfield in it.
Edited by el stovey on Monday 6th July 10:14
Stovey I found the Datis Freq here http://www.militaryairshows.co.uk/freq.htm
Thanks for all your help guys. Had a good weekend, It'd have been better if the Vulcan flew but that's another story
Cheers again.
Thanks for all your help guys. Had a good weekend, It'd have been better if the Vulcan flew but that's another story
Cheers again.
At the very end of that link there is a yellow box with decodes to the abbreviations
It lists some RAF bases as being DATIS and at the end says DATIS is digital atis but some of those airfields aren't actually digital atis equiped. Here the DATIS is another name for departure atis as speedtwelve mentions.
Confused?
It lists some RAF bases as being DATIS and at the end says DATIS is digital atis but some of those airfields aren't actually digital atis equiped. Here the DATIS is another name for departure atis as speedtwelve mentions.
Confused?
Edited by el stovey on Monday 6th July 11:53
Stovey
Just had a look in the mil en-route supplement red book at work, and the freqs for mil airfields are indeed just listed as 'ATIS' freqs. 'DATIS' seems to have crept in somewhere, as it is SOP to refer to it as such here at Middle Wallop and at some mil airfields elsewhere, but you're correct, it should really be just 'ATIS'. Good old mil vs civvy terminology... 'Final' vs 'Finals' is another good can of worms!
Just had a look in the mil en-route supplement red book at work, and the freqs for mil airfields are indeed just listed as 'ATIS' freqs. 'DATIS' seems to have crept in somewhere, as it is SOP to refer to it as such here at Middle Wallop and at some mil airfields elsewhere, but you're correct, it should really be just 'ATIS'. Good old mil vs civvy terminology... 'Final' vs 'Finals' is another good can of worms!
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