Rotting Lightning on the A1

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central

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217 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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...just outside Newark.

Recent -



Early 1990s -

"It was purchased as a gimmick by a haulage company owner, but now sits amongst old cars and scrap."



I've heard it's been there since the 1970s.

Does anyone know any more details?

FourWheelDrift

88,541 posts

284 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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Some info here - http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/lightning/...

and links to other photo sites.

insurance_jon

4,056 posts

246 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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passed it last week, thought it was a waste

aeropilot

34,630 posts

227 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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central said:
I've heard it's been there since the 1970s.

Does anyone know any more details?
What do you want to know...?

It's F.2A XN728, spent almost all of it'sservice life with 92 Sqn and when the RAFG Lightnings were replaced by Phantoms in 1977, it made it's last flight to RAF Coningsby on 4th April 1977 for use as an airfield decoy, and then for BDR.

It has been in the A1 yard slowly deteriorating since 1983.

central

Original Poster:

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Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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Thanks guys smile

spitfire-ian

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228 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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Happier times...


louiebaby

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191 months

Thursday 3rd December 2009
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aeropilot said:
It has been in the A1 yard slowly deteriorating since 1983.
Sounds about right, it's been there as long as I can remember. I was born in 1980 and lived up the road until 1998.

It's been a shame to see it slowly decay.

central

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Thursday 3rd December 2009
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On the other thread -

crofty1984 said:
central said:
By the A1 near Newark

That was parked up good as new a week ago.

Ravell

1,181 posts

212 months

Sunday 6th December 2009
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central said:
...just outside Newark.

Recent -



Early 1990s -
What I don't get is how it got in the state from that early pic to the current one. I passed it a few years back and decided to see how close I could get. The whole yard around it is fenced off and has a bunch of guard dogs, so how the hell did it get grafitied over and parts go missing?!?

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 6th December 2009
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IIRC a lot of the damage was done in the early 1990's. I think the yard was purchased by someone else a couple of years back. This may explain the increase in security. Can't be 100% sure on the above, but I seem to remember rumours going around about a change of owners of the yard.

thatone1967

4,193 posts

191 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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very sad... if there is one aircraft I would love to see returned to UK Skies, it's the lightning... (although I fear this one is slightly beyond redemption...)


central

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Monday 7th December 2009
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thatone1967 said:
very sad... if there is one aircraft I would love to see returned to UK Skies, it's the lightning... (although I fear this one is slightly beyond redemption...)
Not according to Crofty1984.

aeropilot

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Monday 7th December 2009
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thatone1967 said:
(although I fear this one is slightly beyond redemption...)
Just a bit yes

Ravell

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212 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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central said:
thatone1967 said:
very sad... if there is one aircraft I would love to see returned to UK Skies, it's the lightning... (although I fear this one is slightly beyond redemption...)
Not according to Crofty1984.
Probably a really stupid idea, and I doubt I'm the first to suggest it, but...

Seeing as there is a lot of interrest in this plane an people are always asking/hoping it can be rescued. Why don't a bunch of us pool resources and money to restore it, or at least investigate if it's too far gone or not. Similar to what was done with the Avro Vulcan at Bruntingthorpe?

It would be an awesome sight to see it resurected and to know each of up helped in some way to make that happen.

... like I said, probably a stupid idea, but I thought I'd mention it anyway. wink

Eric Mc

122,038 posts

265 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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The plane is beyond restoration - certainly to flying condition. Major structural damage has been inflicted on the airframe and large elements are missing completely.

dr_gn

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184 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Ravell said:
central said:
thatone1967 said:
very sad... if there is one aircraft I would love to see returned to UK Skies, it's the lightning... (although I fear this one is slightly beyond redemption...)
Not according to Crofty1984.
Probably a really stupid idea, and I doubt I'm the first to suggest it, but...

Seeing as there is a lot of interrest in this plane an people are always asking/hoping it can be rescued. Why don't a bunch of us pool resources and money to restore it, or at least investigate if it's too far gone or not. Similar to what was done with the Avro Vulcan at Bruntingthorpe?

It would be an awesome sight to see it resurected and to know each of up helped in some way to make that happen.

... like I said, probably a stupid idea, but I thought I'd mention it anyway. wink
Give me your address, I'll start the ball rollling with £2.74 (which is all the change I've got to my name at the moment).

skyslimit

524 posts

172 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Save your money I'm afraid. They chopped the wings in totally the wrong place for future integrity on that aircraft when they transported it.

Structually alone, she can NEVER fly again frown

dr_gn

16,166 posts

184 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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skyslimit said:
Save your money I'm afraid. They chopped the wings in totally the wrong place for future integrity on that aircraft when they transported it.

Structually alone, she can NEVER fly again frown
I think it's pretty obvious it won't fly again, and not only for structural reasons...

It's apparently still sound enough to stand on its main gear though. What would be relatively cheap and simple, would be to bodge some fibreglass panels onto it, along with a new shock cone and canopy, give it a nice flash paintjob, and stick it vertically on a couple of the longest telegraph poles you could find. Now *that* would be a good advert for your scrapyard...and it would be better than just letting it rot to nothing.

skyslimit

524 posts

172 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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dr_gn said:
skyslimit said:
Save your money I'm afraid. They chopped the wings in totally the wrong place for future integrity on that aircraft when they transported it.

Structually alone, she can NEVER fly again frown
I think it's pretty obvious it won't fly again, and not only for structural reasons...

It's apparently still sound enough to stand on its main gear though. What would be relatively cheap and simple, would be to bodge some fibreglass panels onto it, along with a new shock cone and canopy, give it a nice flash paintjob, and stick it vertically on a couple of the longest telegraph poles you could find. Now *that* would be a good advert for your scrapyard...and it would be better than just letting it rot to nothing.
Sadly, not even good enough for that now according to the thunder and lightnings site, it's rotted too far.

Dreadful waste of an example of an iconic, all British, record setting aircraft.

Edited by skyslimit on Monday 7th December 22:09

Simpo Two

85,467 posts

265 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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There's a certain type of person who like to surround themselves with rusting junk. Never understood why.