RR Merlin Engines
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eccles said:
Bish said:
Nope nothing to do witrh Stanley Mann.
Should be finished in March 2010. Just fabricated teh exhaust system and finishes some details on the interior. Going to see her fired up in the New Year and will take plenty of video action!
Hmmm, Should be finished in March 2010. Just fabricated teh exhaust system and finishes some details on the interior. Going to see her fired up in the New Year and will take plenty of video action!
.....Just need Ian Carmichael now....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2caCgciV_ZQ&fea...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6lFoEBG7Oc
Edited by Mr_B on Tuesday 15th December 20:11
Bish said:
Nope nothing to do witrh Stanley Mann.
Should be finished in March 2010. Just fabricated teh exhaust system and finishes some details on the interior. Going to see her fired up in the New Year and will take plenty of video action!
It's been bugging me all day... but I've just realised why. Its in "back to front" when compared with an aircraft installation. Its definitely a Meteor as theres no sign of a supercharger housing or the reduction gear. Should be finished in March 2010. Just fabricated teh exhaust system and finishes some details on the interior. Going to see her fired up in the New Year and will take plenty of video action!
richw_82 said:
aeropilot said:
Possiblly, as it was 20 years ago that RR at Filton did the DB605 for Black 6, so the expertise and facilities maybe have evolved/migrated to the Spit operations team.
The converted 58 series engines from the Shack were originally done by RR for the restored MkXIX's when all 3 were still operated by the BBMF, as parts for the original 66's were in short supply, whereas the Shack unit's were in plentiful supply as the Shack was then (late 1980's) still in service.
RR had to design and build a number of new/unique components for the conversion.
The 58 was only more powerful in the Shack because of the fittment of water/methanol inj, which isn't used in the Spit 58 version, so, it's only marginally more powerful as fitted than the original 66.
I know there was a lot of serious machining work done to the engine to get rid of the gearbox for the contra-rotating propellors,The converted 58 series engines from the Shack were originally done by RR for the restored MkXIX's when all 3 were still operated by the BBMF, as parts for the original 66's were in short supply, whereas the Shack unit's were in plentiful supply as the Shack was then (late 1980's) still in service.
RR had to design and build a number of new/unique components for the conversion.
The 58 was only more powerful in the Shack because of the fittment of water/methanol inj, which isn't used in the Spit 58 version, so, it's only marginally more powerful as fitted than the original 66.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YioXYhbVPA
Total loss said:
richw_82 said:
aeropilot said:
Possiblly, as it was 20 years ago that RR at Filton did the DB605 for Black 6, so the expertise and facilities maybe have evolved/migrated to the Spit operations team.
The converted 58 series engines from the Shack were originally done by RR for the restored MkXIX's when all 3 were still operated by the BBMF, as parts for the original 66's were in short supply, whereas the Shack unit's were in plentiful supply as the Shack was then (late 1980's) still in service.
RR had to design and build a number of new/unique components for the conversion.
The 58 was only more powerful in the Shack because of the fittment of water/methanol inj, which isn't used in the Spit 58 version, so, it's only marginally more powerful as fitted than the original 66.
I know there was a lot of serious machining work done to the engine to get rid of the gearbox for the contra-rotating propellors,The converted 58 series engines from the Shack were originally done by RR for the restored MkXIX's when all 3 were still operated by the BBMF, as parts for the original 66's were in short supply, whereas the Shack unit's were in plentiful supply as the Shack was then (late 1980's) still in service.
RR had to design and build a number of new/unique components for the conversion.
The 58 was only more powerful in the Shack because of the fittment of water/methanol inj, which isn't used in the Spit 58 version, so, it's only marginally more powerful as fitted than the original 66.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YioXYhbVPA
Frankly, the value wouldn't matter to me. To create such a car is a goal in itself, to see it run, to hear the sheer thunder, to feel the ground shake; such moments have no price or value. My trouble is that once I've finished a project though, I sometimes lose interest until I have a new one. I hope that won't be the case here. My hat is well and truly doffed.
richw_82 said:
Bish said:
Nope nothing to do witrh Stanley Mann.
Should be finished in March 2010. Just fabricated teh exhaust system and finishes some details on the interior. Going to see her fired up in the New Year and will take plenty of video action!
It's been bugging me all day... but I've just realised why. Its in "back to front" when compared with an aircraft installation. Its definitely a Meteor as theres no sign of a supercharger housing or the reduction gear. Should be finished in March 2010. Just fabricated teh exhaust system and finishes some details on the interior. Going to see her fired up in the New Year and will take plenty of video action!
Simpo Two said:
Bish said:
Should be finished in March 2010. Just fabricated teh exhaust system and finishes some details on the interior. Going to see her fired up in the New Year and will take plenty of video action!
Blimey, so it's yours!It's obviously a stonking piece of automobilia, but where does it stand in the authenticity/value stakes? By that I mean that presumably you had to destroy an old Bentley, not cheap, to make this. Bentleys are expensive and Merlins even more so, but what happens when you put them together?
The same chap is building 5 Bentley Blower replicas at the moment aswell so it is always quite an intersting garage to have a gander around.
Bish said:
Simpo Two said:
Bish said:
Should be finished in March 2010. Just fabricated teh exhaust system and finishes some details on the interior. Going to see her fired up in the New Year and will take plenty of video action!
Blimey, so it's yours!It's obviously a stonking piece of automobilia, but where does it stand in the authenticity/value stakes? By that I mean that presumably you had to destroy an old Bentley, not cheap, to make this. Bentleys are expensive and Merlins even more so, but what happens when you put them together?
The same chap is building 5 Bentley Blower replicas at the moment aswell so it is always quite an intersting garage to have a gander around.
I know a man who will build you a "genuine" Bentley chassis from scratch, any pre-war Bentley
He has wooden formers all over the walls of his workshop and get orders from any where in the world. I have seen him turn a strip of cut steel into a chassis with all the curves and radiusses.
He says his chassis' are accepted as authentic, just like buying an MGB or TR body from British Motor Heritage, maybe this car had a similar pedigree
Whatever, I'd just love it!
perdu said:
I know a man who will build you a "genuine" Bentley chassis from scratch, any pre-war Bentley... He says his chassis' are accepted as authentic
They may be 'authentic' but cannot be 'genuine', as defined in this legal scrap over the ancestry of 'Bentley Number One':http://www.gomog.com/articles/no1judgement.html
Loving the Bentley.
There are quite a few Rolls Royces and Rolls Royce era Bentleys with those engines. I can't quite see the link in that one though, putting a Rolls Royce engine into a WO (and hence no connection with Rolls Royce), couldn't you find a Napier?
There are quite a few Rolls Royces and Rolls Royce era Bentleys with those engines. I can't quite see the link in that one though, putting a Rolls Royce engine into a WO (and hence no connection with Rolls Royce), couldn't you find a Napier?
Edited by Balmoral Green on Thursday 17th December 13:25
Balmoral Green said:
couldn't you find a Napier?
I have a motorboat built by Hubert Scott Paine at the British Power Boat Company at the same time he built Miss England and Miss Britain both with Napier Lion's.I've been on the hunt for a runnning (or at leats recoverable) Lion for 4 years and no luck, I suspect if I did find one I could afford it!
Simpo Two said:
perdu said:
I know a man who will build you a "genuine" Bentley chassis from scratch, any pre-war Bentley... He says his chassis' are accepted as authentic
They may be 'authentic' but cannot be 'genuine', as defined in this legal scrap over the ancestry of 'Bentley Number One':http://www.gomog.com/articles/no1judgement.html
I dont know a smiley for "my tongue is in my cheek!"
I couldnt afford his services anyway (and to be quite honest, Heritage bodyshells might be accepted officially but I dont consider them "really pukkah" myself)
I was staggered to be seeing his workshop
all I wanted was for him to plasma cut me a backplate to fit a BMW E30 5-speed box to an A-series BMC engine
Fitted beautifully
a craftsman working, always a pleasure to see
Well known Rover SD1 of Charlie Broomfield creation in PPC magazine.
Awesome, i have owned 2 SD1's, a 2300SE & 3500 V8 (ex Police)
Not experienced a 27 litre Meteor engined one though!
They recently took it around the ring ahh....the sound of the mighty V12 Spitfire/Hurricane/Lancaster/Mossie/P-51 etc... In the heart of Germany.
Awesome, i have owned 2 SD1's, a 2300SE & 3500 V8 (ex Police)
Not experienced a 27 litre Meteor engined one though!
They recently took it around the ring ahh....the sound of the mighty V12 Spitfire/Hurricane/Lancaster/Mossie/P-51 etc... In the heart of Germany.
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