super yachts 60million+

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Mark34bn

826 posts

177 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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I worked for Princess Yachts for 8 years (maybe not superyachts but £5million stuff), the view was you'd need to set aside 30% of the value of the boat per year to moor / run it.

Mike Random

466 posts

170 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Mark34bn said:
I worked for Princess Yachts for 8 years (maybe not superyachts but £5million stuff), the view was you'd need to set aside 30% of the value of the boat per year to moor / run it.
Mark we work on a basis of 10% of the boats value to run a year on a fully crewed up large yacht, Princess is just down the road from Stamford isnt it?

Mike

Mark34bn

826 posts

177 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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PYI are in Plymouth, Devon. Maybe the 30% is for 'cheaper' boats than the ones pictured above.

Mike Random

466 posts

170 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Arent they getting in to bigger boats now like Sunseeker?

Mike

FourWheelDrift

88,527 posts

284 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Mike Random said:
Arent they getting in to bigger boats now like Sunseeker?

Mike
http://www.princess40m.com/

Mike.C

1,077 posts

210 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Sunseeker have started to Market their new yachts under the 'zeus' name. Do a quick google search. They have not been building superyachts that long but the new ranges do look good.


Anyone notice that the beam on all their yachts upto the 105 were all the same ?? I heard this was due to the fact their dry dock in Poole was not big enough to build anything beamier.

Can't comment on running costs of the mega yachts but have had plenty of sub 24M boats and running costs are all down to how it's being used.

24M mooring at say st carles in Spain £7k pa direct with owner
24M prime uk berth 15k pa
24M prime med mooring 50k +pa
insurance approx 0.7% of hull value
service and running costs £10k pa

plenty of yachts are put into charter too. A few weeks charter work covers most of the above.

always bits n pieces need doing so another few bags.

Most sub 24M boats are skippered by owners or a skipper sub contracted for the day / week at between £100 -£300 per day depending on qualifications. I usually ask a mate, much cheaper.

Biggest cost, again only talking sub 24M is depreciation and rule of thumb for mainstream boats, year 1 the vat equiv and then 10% each subsequent year. Cut this down by buying a new model rather than outgong model. I have heard of superyachts owners running them for a few years and actually selling at a profit.

Eddie Jordon once said he has never lost money on any of his yachts and has just put a deposit on a new SS140. Small Sunseeker marketing perhaps.

Maybe we should sort a pistonheads yacht day out.


TimJMS

2,584 posts

251 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Another shot of 'A', sheltering from a storm in Kalkan bay, September 2009


mackie1

8,153 posts

233 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Mike Random said:
It is a very unattractive boat due to how he uses it, if it was used like "Turmoil" or "Pangaea" then it would be much better

Mike
Could you explain further?

FourWheelDrift

88,527 posts

284 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Under £60million, so cheap at £49million hehe

I see the worlds largest single mastesd yacht the 75m Mirabella V is up for sale.

http://www.camperandnicholsons.com/sales/search/-/...

Here it is with the Maltese Falcon in the background.

Mark34bn

826 posts

177 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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FourWheelDrift said:
Mike Random said:
Arent they getting in to bigger boats now like Sunseeker?

Mike
http://www.princess40m.com/
That's being built in the South yard area of Devonport Dockyard, they've reached the limit of what they can launch at the Newport St works with the 85 & 95. I used to build the 85, below.
http://www.princessyachts.com/index.html#/en/flybr...

theironduke

6,995 posts

188 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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YAD061 said:
mackie1 said:
Skat looks like it should have guns:

Seen this a couple of times in PB, was told it belonged to Sean Connery
That one is the winner for me! Epic! Looks evil..but cant help thinking that black would look even better!!!

My step-sister hubby drives these things, lucky sod!

theironduke

6,995 posts

188 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
theironduke said:
YAD061 said:
mackie1 said:
Skat looks like it should have guns:

Seen this a couple of times in PB, was told it belonged to Sean Connery
That one is the winner for me! Epic! Looks evil..but cant help thinking that black would look even better!!!
Kidding right?
Looks like grim Grey Industrial Building.
With a fking crap lean-too PVC conservatory on the side decks :sick:

do you consider it to be similar / better / worse than :



on a par...?

biggrin

andy ted

1,284 posts

265 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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No idea how much its worth but I would like something with sails! If it had to be big and expensive then something like Adix would fit the bill - been round the world a few times think its back or just been in at Pendennis for some work as well




or Mari Cha III - Saw this in Bonifacio once dwarfed the rest of the boats in there. Was a record holder but not as extreme as Mari Cha IV




Edited by andy ted on Thursday 4th February 22:41




Edited by andy ted on Thursday 4th February 22:50

Mike Random

466 posts

170 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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The iron duke, whats his name? and what does he drive do you know?



This is cool

Mike Random

466 posts

170 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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This is one of my favorites, really nice inside as well,



Mike

Mike Random

466 posts

170 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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This is a nice one also, anybody guess whos this is?



Mike

IM NUTS2

585 posts

176 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Mike.C said:
Sunseeker have started to Market their new yachts under the 'zeus' name. Do a quick google search. They have not been building superyachts that long but the new ranges do look good.

Anyone notice that the beam on all their yachts upto the 105 were all the same ?? I heard this was due to the fact their dry dock in Poole was not big enough to build anything beamier.

Most sub 24M boats are skippered by owners or a skipper sub contracted for the day / week at between £100 -£300 per day depending on qualifications. I usually ask a mate, much cheaper.


Hmm not a fan on their new Superyacht range, TBh i think there to big to be made of fiberglass and the finish is shocking, M4 a 37m was in Ft Lauderdale and if i was the owner it would have been back to the factory to sort the sides out so they didn't look like the surface of the moon!

Correct they were made to fit the dry dock they are made in also the hoist at the yard, i have a pic of a 105 stuck in the hoist dock!

£100- £300 you say hehe


andy ted

1,284 posts

265 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
andy ted said:
No idea how much its worth but I would like something with sails! If it had to be big and expensive then something like Adix would fit the bill - been round the world a few times think its back or just been in at Pendennis for some work as well

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Oh yes of course Sir.

And Elena, Eleanour etc


lets move on from these Plastic Stink boats...... scratchchin New Thread? Real boats only?
Bit O/T my friend spent a few years on one of the classics that does the circuit imho nothing modern comes close. It would have to be an old Fife for me probably or Maybe something like Mariette (another Herreshoff like Elena)
one day......
http://www.nautica.it/superyacht/517/mariette/eng....

Edited by andy ted on Friday 5th February 00:42

Rum Runner

2,338 posts

217 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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I was on Thendara for this week.
http://www.thendara.info/private/BI_2000_06.htm
http://www.thendara.info/index.php5

Superb.....



Edited by Rum Runner on Friday 5th February 00:48

sassthathoopie

862 posts

215 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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andy ted said:
or Mari Cha III - Saw this in Bonifacio once dwarfed the rest of the boats in there. Was a record holder but not as extreme as Mari Cha IV

I was offered the mate's job on Mari Cha III a few years back. Lovely boat, although the interior refit requested by the daughters when they took her over was in questionable taste.