super yachts 60million+

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FourWheelDrift

88,556 posts

285 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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p1stonhead said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Use one of these if you want to take your little boat from the med to the Caribbean.

https://www.petersandmay.com/en/about-us/yacht-shi...
I’d imagine that’s cheap!
And perfectly safe - https://gcaptain.com/superyacht-my-song-lost-durin...

WCZ

10,537 posts

195 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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Burwood said:
It's capable of handling a decent sea but not designed to go 500 miles+ offshore. It could easily have a water maker on board for showers and hold 500L of fresh water/2000L fuel. Something like that. Even this boat is £2.5M range i would guess without looking it up.
what would you recommend for something to do a serious journey in?

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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WCZ said:
Burwood said:
It's capable of handling a decent sea but not designed to go 500 miles+ offshore. It could easily have a water maker on board for showers and hold 500L of fresh water/2000L fuel. Something like that. Even this boat is £2.5M range i would guess without looking it up.
what would you recommend for something to do a serious journey in?
Depends on budget but sub £5M, something like https://nordhavn.com

Trawler style expedition yachts. https://www.beringyachts.com

In Australasia it's not uncommon to take a 20M Sportfisher up to the Islands which is 1500nm. 10 knots, fuel bladders on deck. Proper gear, experienced crew. Pick the weather window.

Edited by Burwood on Wednesday 28th August 13:18

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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FourWheelDrift said:
p1stonhead said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Use one of these if you want to take your little boat from the med to the Caribbean.

https://www.petersandmay.com/en/about-us/yacht-shi...
I’d imagine that’s cheap!
And perfectly safe - https://gcaptain.com/superyacht-my-song-lost-durin...
WTFFFFFFF

That is one of the most mental stories I’ve read laugh

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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WCZ said:
Burwood said:
It's capable of handling a decent sea but not designed to go 500 miles+ offshore. It could easily have a water maker on board for showers and hold 500L of fresh water/2000L fuel. Something like that. Even this boat is £2.5M range i would guess without looking it up.
what would you recommend for something to do a serious journey in?
Eclipse biggrin

WCZ

10,537 posts

195 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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Burwood said:
Depends on budget but sub £5M, something like https://nordhavn.com

Trawler style expedition yachts. https://www.beringyachts.com

In Australasia it's not uncommon to take a 20M Sportfisher up to the Islands which is 1500nm. 10 knots, fuel bladders on deck. Proper gear, experienced crew. Pick the weather window.

Edited by Burwood on Wednesday 28th August 13:18
thanks

Chris Stott

13,392 posts

198 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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WCZ said:
what would you recommend for something to do a serious journey in?
A yacht with sails... even a decent 40 footer is capable of crossing oceans safely in anything but the very worst weather. If you want more comfort/space, something from Southern Winds Shipyard or Swan, around 100ft would be more than capable of taking you round the world in proper comfort. Not in the £60M super yacht class of comfort, but much more useful than the day boats Sunseeker and the like build.

p1stonhead said:
WTFFFFFFF

That is one of the most mental stories I’ve read laugh
Extremely unusual for this to happen - the boats crew were responsible for ensuring she was properly secured. Tragedy to lose such a beautiful yacht like that.

LimaDelta

6,531 posts

219 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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^^^^ Come on guys, this is supposed to be the Superyacht thread. Lets leave the little day-boats out of it.

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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Chris Stott said:
WCZ said:
what would you recommend for something to do a serious journey in?
A yacht with sails... even a decent 40 footer is capable of crossing oceans safely in anything but the very worst weather. If you want more comfort/space, something from Southern Winds Shipyard or Swan, around 100ft would be more than capable of taking you round the world in proper comfort. Not in the £60M super yacht class of comfort, but much more useful than the day boats Sunseeker and the like build.

p1stonhead said:
WTFFFFFFF

That is one of the most mental stories I’ve read laugh
Extremely unusual for this to happen - the boats crew were responsible for ensuring she was properly secured. Tragedy to lose such a beautiful yacht like that.
By ‘lose’ I assume they knew it fell off and sunk rather than them getting to the end and then realising? hehe

Chris Stott

13,392 posts

198 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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p1stonhead said:
By ‘lose’ I assume they knew it fell off and sunk rather than them getting to the end and then realising? hehe
I meant the boat is a total loss. Un-repairable.

I think they would have noticed they were missing a 130ft yacht biggrin

FourWheelDrift

88,556 posts

285 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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Chris Stott said:
p1stonhead said:
By ‘lose’ I assume they knew it fell off and sunk rather than them getting to the end and then realising? hehe
I meant the boat is a total loss. Un-repairable.

I think they would have noticed they were missing a 130ft yacht biggrin
"..It just came up from nowhere and grabbed it, honest"


AMVSVNick

6,997 posts

163 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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p1stonhead said:
Eclipse biggrin
SWMBO has been on Eclipse and would agree wink

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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AMVSVNick said:
p1stonhead said:
Eclipse biggrin
SWMBO has been on Eclipse and would agree wink
Blimey how did she manage that!

Would love to have a mooch around hehe

AMVSVNick

6,997 posts

163 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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p1stonhead said:
Blimey how did she manage that!
Sadly not something for this forum. But she does know an awful lot about Eclipse yes

paulguitar

23,537 posts

114 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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AMVSVNick said:
p1stonhead said:
Blimey how did she manage that!
Sadly not something for this forum. But she does know an awful lot about Eclipse yes
One of those frustrating PH mysteries!



Speculatore

2,002 posts

236 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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LimaDelta said:
rich12 said:
I don't want a boat anymore frown
The two happiest days of a boat owners life...



But it's all relative.

Using the hypothetical example of an owner worth 1B , and spending 5M pa on running costs and 5M during the winter for 'servicing'.

This is essentially the same as an individual with a net worth of 1M , spending 5k on running their Porsche, plus 5k for servicing.

Or your average man on the street with a net worth of 100k spending 500 on running their Golf, plus 500 on a service.
Agree LD. When I try to put it in to perspective for my non-industry frieds I explain the 'Scale of £400'. For example if you put a £1 coin in a charity tin it is the same as a Billionaire putting £400 in and feeling the same. You give a waiter a £10 tip after a nice meal is the same as the Billionaire giving £4000... I even had a table of Premiership footballer stuck for words...

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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Speculatore said:
LimaDelta said:
rich12 said:
I don't want a boat anymore frown
The two happiest days of a boat owners life...



But it's all relative.

Using the hypothetical example of an owner worth 1B , and spending 5M pa on running costs and 5M during the winter for 'servicing'.

This is essentially the same as an individual with a net worth of 1M , spending 5k on running their Porsche, plus 5k for servicing.

Or your average man on the street with a net worth of 100k spending 500 on running their Golf, plus 500 on a service.
Agree LD. When I try to put it in to perspective for my non-industry frieds I explain the 'Scale of £400'. For example if you put a £1 coin in a charity tin it is the same as a Billionaire putting £400 in and feeling the same. You give a waiter a £10 tip after a nice meal is the same as the Billionaire giving £4000... I even had a table of Premiership footballer stuck for words...
Or £500,000 if you are Jeff Bezos.......

shirt

22,618 posts

202 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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Burwood said:
My fishing boat was 10m long and had twin 300hp v6 outboards. At 30 mph if would sip 80L of petrol per hour. At 50mph it would run 150l per hour and wide open it’s 200l. Think about the friction from water and you get a lot of slip from propellers. Very inefficient

I just looked up Ulysses specs. Twin diesel electrics. Each engine is 8000 kg, 69L displacement. V16. Imagine the fuel it uses just purring along at 1,300 rpm.

Edited by Burwood on Tuesday 27th August 20:44
About 220-230l/hr i’d assume? That’s the range for similar engined generator putting out 1250-1500kw. Not much imo

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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paulguitar said:
AMVSVNick said:
p1stonhead said:
Blimey how did she manage that!
Sadly not something for this forum. But she does know an awful lot about Eclipse yes
One of those frustrating PH mysteries!
Shouldn’t ah mentioned it. Soz

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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shirt said:
Burwood said:
My fishing boat was 10m long and had twin 300hp v6 outboards. At 30 mph if would sip 80L of petrol per hour. At 50mph it would run 150l per hour and wide open it’s 200l. Think about the friction from water and you get a lot of slip from propellers. Very inefficient

I just looked up Ulysses specs. Twin diesel electrics. Each engine is 8000 kg, 69L displacement. V16. Imagine the fuel it uses just purring along at 1,300 rpm.

Edited by Burwood on Tuesday 27th August 20:44
About 220-230l/hr i’d assume? That’s the range for similar engined generator putting out 1250-1500kw. Not much imo
I missed out the number, sorry. About 300L per hour per engine so given it’s pushing 4K tonnes not bad. Spot on and agreed, not much really.