super yachts 60million+

[PushedDover]

So I’m the hypothetical world..... COVID -19 looms and one has a 60million + vessel.


So obvious thing is to jet out / heli on deck and GTFO

How does one see this option / isolation option ? How much food and endurance are we looking at on the SY’s

We are asked for 28 endurance in the offshore W2W world - but with 40 pax
Are super yachts holding their elite offshore currently / indefinitely?


(Without a shadow of doubt with anything of 50ft or more, I’d be gone in a shot ! )

[Bonefish Blues]

speedster986 said:

‘Here comes the sun’ is moored in Poole quay at the moment. Towers over the Sunseekers.

There's a lovely symmetry to that

[LimaDelta]

PushedDover said:

So I’m the hypothetical world..... COVID -19 looms and one has a 60million + vessel.


So obvious thing is to jet out / heli on deck and GTFO

How does one see this option / isolation option ? How much food and endurance are we looking at on the SY’s

We are asked for 28 endurance in the offshore W2W world - but with 40 pax
Are super yachts holding their elite offshore currently / indefinitely?


(Without a shadow of doubt with anything of 50ft or more, I’d be gone in a shot ! )

We are laid up at the moment, as are many around us. This is the point boats would be preparing for the upcoming season. Needless to say there will probably not be a summer for many boats, or at best it will be pushed back to August/September. Travel restrictions, along with CV19 worries for owners (what if they catch it from the crew?!) mean a lot will just write this one off. A lot of countries will not clear in boats at the moment, so the option of moving is just no longer available.

However, if you did fancy your chances isolating...

To use us as an example (around 90m MY), to run in full 'guest' mode we have fridge/freezer capacity for 2-3 weeks based on 12 guests and 26 crew. With reduced numbers and less extravagant service we could probably manage a month or more. Crew alone and we could double that. Assuming we are anchored in clean water then we can make our own drinking water so no issues there. We burn about 2000 litres of fuel a day, but that could be reduced if we needed to. Given full tanks we would last about 3 months on anchor before the lights went out. Obviously a lot less if we needed to move anywhere. There is a decent supply of medical kit onboard and we have 24/7 access to a shoreside based doctor who can link into our tempus unit and receive live data from a casualty. We have O2 bottles and an O2 generator onboard which could be of some use but obviously none of that is a real substitute for a proper shore-side hospital facility.

So, as we are now we could probably 'completely' isolate for a couple of months, but infection is still a risk - if three submarines and an aircraft carrier can get it then anyone can!

[marky1]

speedster986 said:

‘Here comes the sun’ is moored in Poole quay at the moment. Towers over the Sunseekers.

She came into Gibraltar about a week ago.

[Antony Moxey]

PushedDover said:

We are asked for 28 endurance in the offshore W2W world - but with 40 pax

Translation anyone?

[Krikkit]

Antony Moxey said:

PushedDover said:

We are asked for 28 endurance in the offshore W2W world - but with 40 pax

Translation anyone?

Walk to Work?

ETA:

[Mike Random]

We are in the yard fortunately so not entirely dead time for us. Even with Covid - 19 measuring things are still progressing at a steady pace.

I agree with Lima Delta, the summer season will be a right off or it will be very late in the Eastern Med.

This shows how fragile we are as an industry and some owners are.

Stay safe,

Mike

[Not Ideal]

LimaDelta said:

We are laid up at the moment, as are many around us. This is the point boats would be preparing for the upcoming season. Needless to say there will probably not be a summer for many boats, or at best it will be pushed back to August/September. Travel restrictions, along with CV19 worries for owners (what if they catch it from the crew?!) mean a lot will just write this one off. A lot of countries will not clear in boats at the moment, so the option of moving is just no longer available.

However, if you did fancy your chances isolating...

To use us as an example (around 90m MY), to run in full 'guest' mode we have fridge/freezer capacity for 2-3 weeks based on 12 guests and 26 crew. With reduced numbers and less extravagant service we could probably manage a month or more. Crew alone and we could double that. Assuming we are anchored in clean water then we can make our own drinking water so no issues there. We burn about 2000 litres of fuel a day, but that could be reduced if we needed to. Given full tanks we would last about 3 months on anchor before the lights went out. Obviously a lot less if we needed to move anywhere. There is a decent supply of medical kit onboard and we have 24/7 access to a shoreside based doctor who can link into our tempus unit and receive live data from a casualty. We have O2 bottles and an O2 generator onboard which could be of some use but obviously none of that is a real substitute for a proper shore-side hospital facility.

So, as we are now we could probably 'completely' isolate for a couple of months, but infection is still a risk - if three submarines and an aircraft carrier can get it then anyone can!

Cool - interesting info. Stupid question - what happens to all the trash in that theoretical month ? Assume it gets compacted and stored somewhere ?

[LimaDelta]

Not Ideal said:

Cool - interesting info. Stupid question - what happens to all the trash in that theoretical month ? Assume it gets compacted and stored somewhere ?

Taken ashore daily by tender under normal circumstances. If that is not possible (on a crossing for example) it is compacted and refrigerated until it can be processed. Certain stuff (food waste, etc.) can be discarged over the side providing legal criteria are met.

[Not Ideal]

LimaDelta said:

Taken ashore daily by tender under normal circumstances. If that is not possible (on a crossing for example) it is compacted and refrigerated until it can be processed. Certain stuff (food waste, etc.) can be discarged over the side providing legal criteria are met.

Cool thanks !

[Speculatore]

marky1 said:

speedster986 said:

‘Here comes the sun’ is moored in Poole quay at the moment. Towers over the Sunseekers.

She came into Gibraltar about a week ago.

We just brought one of the yachts we look after back to the UK from Monaco as out of the 27 crew 26 are UK residence. They are in enforced isolation now until the 3rd April then follow the same restrictions as the rest of the UK.

We have one stuck in Chile and another in Montenegro not able to go anywhere apart to sea and waste fuel.

[z4RRSchris]

i heard yesterday that some people are on yachts chartered in the Caribbean and are refusing to leave. any truth in that?

[PushedDover]

Antony Moxey said:

PushedDover said:

We are asked for 28 endurance in the offshore W2W world - but with 40 pax

Translation anyone?

As above - Walk2Work type vessel, but mainly supporting Offshore Wind activities.
Like this - (but better ;-) ) https://www.esvagt.com/wind

[PushedDover]

LimaDelta said:

We are laid up at the moment, as are many around us. This is the point boats would be preparing for the upcoming season. Needless to say there will probably not be a summer for many boats, or at best it will be pushed back to August/September. Travel restrictions, along with CV19 worries for owners (what if they catch it from the crew?!) mean a lot will just write this one off. A lot of countries will not clear in boats at the moment, so the option of moving is just no longer available.

However, if you did fancy your chances isolating...

To use us as an example (around 90m MY), to run in full 'guest' mode we have fridge/freezer capacity for 2-3 weeks based on 12 guests and 26 crew. With reduced numbers and less extravagant service we could probably manage a month or more. Crew alone and we could double that. Assuming we are anchored in clean water then we can make our own drinking water so no issues there. We burn about 2000 litres of fuel a day, but that could be reduced if we needed to. Given full tanks we would last about 3 months on anchor before the lights went out. Obviously a lot less if we needed to move anywhere. There is a decent supply of medical kit onboard and we have 24/7 access to a shoreside based doctor who can link into our tempus unit and receive live data from a casualty. We have O2 bottles and an O2 generator onboard which could be of some use but obviously none of that is a real substitute for a proper shore-side hospital facility.

So, as we are now we could probably 'completely' isolate for a couple of months, but infection is still a risk - if three submarines and an aircraft carrier can get it then anyone can!

Thanks - so no Owners are looking to use as a bolt hole to escape the general population. (and in the sun) - crackers...

[PushedDover]

LimaDelta said:

Not Ideal said:

Cool - interesting info. Stupid question - what happens to all the trash in that theoretical month ? Assume it gets compacted and stored somewhere ?

Taken ashore daily by tender under normal circumstances. If that is not possible (on a crossing for example) it is compacted and refrigerated until it can be processed. Certain stuff (food waste, etc.) can be discarged over the side providing legal criteria are met.

We are looking heavily in to this as waste becomes a nuisance unless chilled - and the volume of people can generate a lot.
Waste food can be put through the sewage treatment plant (but requires a bigger spec system) or something we are looking to develop to industrial level is Bokashi Composting, free issuing back on the shore the compost.

[LimaDelta]

PushedDover said:

Thanks - so no Owners are looking to use as a bolt hole to escape the general population. (and in the sun) - crackers...

How much time do you think the typical owner spends rubbing shoulders with the general population anyway? Besides, it isn't like they don't have other (often more comfortable and secure) options elsewhere.

[FourWheelDrift]

Not Ideal said:

LimaDelta said:

Certain stuff (food waste, etc.) can be discarged over the side providing legal criteria are met.

Cool thanks !

You still have to be very careful - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpG3-hLJTwU

[PushedDover]

LimaDelta said:

How much time do you think the typical owner spends rubbing shoulders with the general population anyway? Besides, it isn't like they don't have other (often more comfortable and secure) options elsewhere.

Fair enough - the thought of warmer climes and alike. Maybe the lure of pissing about is not so strong for the actual owners ?

[malks222]

PushedDover said:

Thanks - so no Owners are looking to use as a bolt hole to escape the general population. (and in the sun) - crackers...

David Geffen is currently holed up on ‘rising sun’ in the Caribbean. Took a lot of flack after posting a picture on instagram saying he hoped everyone was staying safe and he was hiding out on his mega yacht...... people were quick to point out that we don’t all have yachts and vast sums of money to go and keep ourselves safe!

[Mike Random]

Their was an interesting comment made by a well known Super-yacht Lawyer who said crew may have an argument for an MLC claim if an owner insisted on using/coming on board their yacht in the current climate.