super yachts 60million+

[Petrus1983]

What a beautiful design.

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21st Century Man said:

Can anyone point me in the direction of an up to date registry? I've heard a rumour that my mum's old Benetti has been scrapped. An internet search brings it up a few times, but the web pages might be a few years old.

https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/the-super...

Thanks.

I know nothing about boats, but that is achingly beautiful compared to all the usual stuff in this (fascinating) thread. Like an Aston DB5 in a car park full of Lambo Uruseseses.

[21st Century Man]

Thanks for the nice comments about Fantasy, it used to live in Antibes in the seventies. There are a couple of vids on YouTube of her in 2012 after a light refit, I also found an article about her languishing in a yard in Florida requiring a lot of work. It seems that "Last One" is later than that though, hopefully the suggestion she's been scrapped is old speculation from when she was in the yard, and she's since been saved.

She used to be 25m, but mum sold her to a Swedish cosmetics magnate called Reiderstrom who renamed her "Fantastique", he gave her a major refit in about 1990 and added 5m. I last saw her in Antibes in 1991.

Anecdotally, when I left school I got a job as steward on Sir Walter Salomon's "Walanka", the skipper was Bill Smith who used to skipper Fantasy. Neither of us realised who we were until some weeks later when it came up in conversation.

[AstonZagato]

21st Century Man said:

Can anyone point me in the direction of an up to date registry? I've heard a rumour that my mum's old Benetti has been scrapped. An internet search brings it up a few times, but the web pages might be a few years old.

https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/the-super...

Thanks.

Makes me think of the Disco Volante in Thunderball

[M5-911]

LimaDelta said:

thegreenhell said:

waremark said:

Unlikely 'cause it has been in Antigua since before the Ukraine invasion. Strangely, lawyers for the sanctioned Russian who was believed to have owned it (and another even more valuable yacht) have said it never belonged to him and he had just chartered it several times. I wonder what he stands to gain by denying ownership of a yacht for which he probably paid more than $100m.

Apart from the fact that $100m is probably a tiny drop in his fortune, he's possibly just avoiding some very large bills for a yacht he probably wouldn't be getting back in the foreseeable future. At some point it makes more sense to just write off that $100m asset than to throw a few more tens of million at it, especially if he has other funds and assets frozen. As a sanctioned person he couldn't legally pay any debts against the boat now anyway, and couldn't use or sell it, so it's an easy out to simply disown it.

Not to mention none of these yachts are actually owned by the 'owner', IYKWIM. i.e the person using it and paying ultimately paying the bills will not be named on any of the paperwork, ever.

Indeed, never been on a yacht where the paper work shows the owners name. I doubt Alfa Nero is worth more than 50millions these days.

[Davey S2]

Badda said:

Davey S2 said:

The auction of Alfa Nero has apparently now been approved after nobody came forward to claim ownership.

Pretty sure we saw that in Croatia last summer.

There are 2 very similar sister shipt to Alfa Nero being Seven Seas (Spielberg's old yacht) and Tranquility.

I saw Tranquility in Amalfi last year and she looks very similar from a distance.



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[LimaDelta]

Davey S2 said:

Badda said:

Davey S2 said:

The auction of Alfa Nero has apparently now been approved after nobody came forward to claim ownership.

Pretty sure we saw that in Croatia last summer.

There are 2 very similar sister shipt to Alfa Nero being Seven Seas (Spielberg's old yacht) and Tranquility.

I saw Tranquility in Amalfi last year and she looks very similar from a distance.



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There are more than 2. Nirvana, SPO/Amore Vero, Sunrays, Cloud9/Infinity, all essentially the same boat

[AstonZagato]

LimaDelta said:

Davey S2 said:

Badda said:

Davey S2 said:

The auction of Alfa Nero has apparently now been approved after nobody came forward to claim ownership.

Pretty sure we saw that in Croatia last summer.

There are 2 very similar sister shipt to Alfa Nero being Seven Seas (Spielberg's old yacht) and Tranquility.

I saw Tranquility in Amalfi last year and she looks very similar from a distance.



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There are more than 2. Nirvana, SPO/Amore Vero, Sunrays, Cloud9/Infinity, all essentially the same boat

How embarrassing! Imagine sitting in Monaco harbour and an identical boat arrives next to you. Oh the shame.

[TheJimi]

LimaDelta said:

Davey S2 said:

Badda said:

Davey S2 said:

The auction of Alfa Nero has apparently now been approved after nobody came forward to claim ownership.

Pretty sure we saw that in Croatia last summer.

There are 2 very similar sister shipt to Alfa Nero being Seven Seas (Spielberg's old yacht) and Tranquility.

I saw Tranquility in Amalfi last year and she looks very similar from a distance.



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There are more than 2. Nirvana, SPO/Amore Vero, Sunrays, Cloud9/Infinity, all essentially the same boat

I know we've had this conversation before, but to my eyes, Alfa Nero is both distinctive against her sister yachts, and better looking.

[Norbury90]

I have a question about finance on these megayachts... do these guys buy them outright, or is there some sort of finance that is available for something costing 100 million?

I'm sure I heard that people can be inclined to finance property purchases even when they can afford to buy them cash, as the money they dont dump up front can earn a greater return... yada yada yada. Is this also a thing in the superyaching world?

Is it even possible to get finance on something so expensive? I'm obviously not an expert in the financial field. What would be the rough ballpark figures on say, 100 million quids worth of dinghy?

I dont think i have seen it discussed on this thread or on Esysmans YouTube channel, but I thought one of the boffins in here might have the inside scoop.

Thanks!

[dvs_dave]

Norbury90 said:

I have a question about finance on these megayachts... do these guys buy them outright, or is there some sort of finance that is available for something costing 100 million?

I'm sure I heard that people can be inclined to finance property purchases even when they can afford to buy them cash, as the money they dont dump up front can earn a greater return... yada yada yada. Is this also a thing in the superyaching world?

Is it even possible to get finance on something so expensive? I'm obviously not an expert in the financial field. What would be the rough ballpark figures on say, 100 million quids worth of dinghy?

I dont think i have seen it discussed on this thread or on Esysmans YouTube channel, but I thought one of the boffins in here might have the inside scoop.

Thanks!

Usually there’s a mortgage against them. Why risk your own capital when you can risk someone else’s!

[Petrus1983]

They can have very large loans against them even to people who could buy them outright. And it doesn’t always go according to plan -

https://luxurylaunches.com/transport/sarafsa-yacht...

[Kewy]

Spotted in Dubrovnik, any info?

[thegreenhell]

Kewy said:

Spotted in Dubrovnik, any info?

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships...

[Kewy]

thegreenhell said:

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships...

Thanks, that’s not as exciting 👎🏼

[PushedDover]

thegreenhell said:

Kewy said:

Spotted in Dubrovnik, any info?

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships...

That is bonkers huge !

[Wills2]

PushedDover said:

That is bonkers huge !

It's actually quite small for a cruise ship

[h0b0]

not to be mistaken with this dinghy



or indeed Scenic Eclipse 1

[William-iufx9]

Bas Jaski said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQothf-wXzU&ab...

Damen SeaXplorer 58 launched...Absolutely LOVE the paint chosen for this. I suppose it has a massive toy garage under that massive rear deck?

I worked on her larger sister vessel La Datcha. The design of that was a nightmare for the crew because of how much kit they tried to fit into a small space. I hope Damen have refined the design since then.

[dvs_dave]

William-iufx9 said:

I worked on her larger sister vessel La Datcha. The design of that was a nightmare for the crew because of how much kit they tried to fit into a small space. I hope Damen have refined the design since then.

Top lurking. Any more stories/anecdotes you can share about your time on La Datcha?