lancaster taxy experience

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Wheelrepairit

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205 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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Not this, but I did sit in the Lancaster many yrs ago when it was at Bentwaters in suffolk doing a display, my dad went to school with a chap who went on to fly the spit in the BBMF, so we met him and he let us sit in the aircraft, both Lanc and Spit.

I would pay money to do it again, even more so moving, when I was in it the engines were running, not moving though.

Eric Mc

122,048 posts

266 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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Something I'd like to do too. NX611 is much closer to a WW2 spec Lanc than the BBMF example.

Eric Mc

122,048 posts

266 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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I am guessing "vfm" means Value for Money (I generally use English rather than acronyms wherever possible smile.

I haven't checked the prices of late so I can't really say.

Eric Mc

122,048 posts

266 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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I think £200 is about right. The money goes to keep her in working order.

Recently it was announced that she might be made airworthy again. One of the problems with that is that she might have to be modified to take a second pilot like PA474. During WW2, all Lancasters (and Halifaxes and Stirlings) were single pilot aircraft only.

TEKNOPUG

18,971 posts

206 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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Eric Mc said:
I think £200 is about right. The money goes to keep her in working order.

Recently it was announced that she might be made airworthy again. One of the problems with that is that she might have to be modified to take a second pilot like PA474. During WW2, all Lancasters (and Halifaxes and Stirlings) were single pilot aircraft only.
What did the guy sitting next to the pilot do, watch out for speed cameras and point out things of interest on the way? Or was he just there to pay the toll-booths that are on the wrong side in Europe hehe

FourWheelDrift

88,549 posts

285 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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If I remember correctly, there wasn't a seat there. It was a walk through to the front of the aircraft.

Edited to add, here's a photo.



Edited by FourWheelDrift on Friday 5th March 15:45

TEKNOPUG

18,971 posts

206 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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FourWheelDrift said:
If I remember correctly, there wasn't a seat there. It was a walk through to the front of the aircraft.

Edited to add, here's a photo.



Edited by FourWheelDrift on Friday 5th March 15:45
Well I never! I'm sure that I've seen films with co-pilots. Hmmm....maybe not. That must be pretty lonley - having the responsibility of flying to Berlin and back whilst you sit up there on your own. No co-pilot seems very odd for a plane of that size.

efa: flight engineer of course - doh!

Edited by TEKNOPUG on Friday 5th March 15:58

Eric Mc

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266 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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Because of the shortage or trained pilots, the three big four engined heavies used by the RAF (Lancaster, Halifax and Stirling) were all designed for single pilot operations. The flight engineer performed some of the duties normally allocated to a co-pilot. He usually had a small folding seat next to the pilot to enable them to sit down and assist during take off and landing.

The US did not have the same shortage or manpower so their bombers (even the light twins such as the Mitchell and Boston) were configured for two pilots.

Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 5th March 16:06

FourWheelDrift

88,549 posts

285 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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There is a fold down seat I think on the right though for chats and occasional sitting, until the bombardier needed to get to his position in the nose.

FourWheelDrift

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285 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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The BBMF Lancaster hasn't had a lot of modification, in this photo you will see the right hand seat is put away again to allow access to the front of the aircraft. Doubled up throttle controls and a bar across from the pilot controls to a second set.



Not sure what they do with rudder pedals though (if they can be moved out of the way easily or not).

TEKNOPUG

18,971 posts

206 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Because of the shortage or trained pilots, the three big four engined heavies used by the RAF (Lancaster, Halifax and Stirling) were all designed for single pilot operations. The flight engineer performed some of the duties normally allocated to a co-pilot. He usually had a small folding seat next to the pilot to enable them to sit down and assist during take off and landing.

The US did not have the same shortage or manpower so their bombers (even the light twins such as the Mitchell and Boston) were configured for two pilots.

Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 5th March 16:06
So if the pilot is hurt during a mission then the plane is lost?

Eric Mc

122,048 posts

266 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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That was a possibility. Usually, the pilot gave his flight engineer some basic flying instructions so that he could at least try and fly the plane straight and level to give the cvrew the chance to bail out.

Simpo Two

85,495 posts

266 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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Well I'd love to do a taxi run or even £270 VIP day. Shall we organise a PH trip there?

Emsman

6,923 posts

191 months

Sunday 7th March 2010
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I would adore that, and would say it's bloody good value.
I now have something to save for

richw_82

992 posts

187 months

Monday 8th March 2010
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The only place you're going to get better value for money is paying around £1500 (last time I checked... it may have changed) to the Canadians for a flight in their Lanc.

There's nowhere else you'll get in a running Lancaster.

Ric

Zippee

13,473 posts

235 months

Monday 8th March 2010
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Simpo Two said:
Well I'd love to do a taxi run or even £270 VIP day. Shall we organise a PH trip there?
yes please!!!

Simpo Two

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266 months

Monday 8th March 2010
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Zippee said:
Simpo Two said:
Well I'd love to do a taxi run or even £270 VIP day. Shall we organise a PH trip there?
yes please!!!
Well that's two... any more?

aeropilot

34,657 posts

228 months

Monday 8th March 2010
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richw_82 said:
The only place you're going to get better value for money is paying around £1500 (last time I checked... it may have changed) to the Canadians for a flight in their Lanc.

There's nowhere else you'll get in a running Lancaster.
That's close enough....it's currently CAN$2125 for an hour's trip...which is just under £1400 at todays exhange rate....plus the cost of getting there of course on top.
I know someone that's done it, and they said it was worth every penny.
I've flown in a B-25 and B-17G for a lot less.....but a Lanc would be that much more special.

An RAF mate of mine is now ground crew on BBMF so gets to fly in the Lanc all through the summer.

deviant

4,316 posts

211 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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aeropilot said:
richw_82 said:
The only place you're going to get better value for money is paying around £1500 (last time I checked... it may have changed) to the Canadians for a flight in their Lanc.

There's nowhere else you'll get in a running Lancaster.
That's close enough....it's currently CAN$2125 for an hour's trip...which is just under £1400 at todays exhange rate....plus the cost of getting there of course on top.
I know someone that's done it, and they said it was worth every penny.
I've flown in a B-25 and B-17G for a lot less.....but a Lanc would be that much more special.

An RAF mate of mine is now ground crew on BBMF so gets to fly in the Lanc all through the summer.
£1400 really doesnt sound like poor value to me.

Whats a flight in a B-25 or B-17 worth?

peterperkins

3,152 posts

243 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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Note to self.

Add to Euromillions lottery win 'To Do' list!