RR Trent engine ion BBC 1 last night.

[chuntington101]

Did anyone watch the BBC show (sorry cant remember the name) on the Jet engine last night (about 11:00pm)? it was a re show of the one on sunday at 9:00pm? Just wanted to give a hand to all the people that design and build these engines. true engineering at its very finest and what this country is great for!

Also my dad worked on the Design team for the RB211, the predisesor to the trent engines and the first 3shaft jet engine. He worked on the T4 design.

Thanks Chris.

PS sorry for the rambling, i am still in awe of the people thatbuild these amazing bits of kit.

[Eric Mc]

There was an earlier Trent too.

[tank slapper]

There is some seriously impressive engineering that goes into those engines. The turbine blades are works of art.

[chuntington101]

tank slapper said:

There is some seriously impressive engineering that goes into those engines. The turbine blades are works of art.

That is an understatment! lol each one is machined to something like 1/1000th mm. basically all are identical. and the way they are cast is unreal. grown form a single cristal of alloy into the whole blade. unreal.

and the Tig hand welled compresor side is just amazing. Bet they are better than you local exhaust fabricators! lol also they showed a test of what would happen if a fan blade can loose. suffice to say NOTHING let the engine casing at all! looks spectacular but soo controlled! also they showed a test of blasting goodness only knows how much water directly into the engine and it has to maintain the same amount of thrust as normal.

my dad also told me they used to throw frozed chickens into them at full revs to test them. be intresting to see that. lol

this level of engeering takes the P!SS out of the car industry! we are still drving around in cars with the same engine materials as 60yrs ago! where are the Ti components? where are the new alloys to lighten things up? where si the lelvel of detial that these things have?

Chris.

[Lost soul]

tank slapper said:

There is some seriously impressive engineering that goes into those engines. The turbine blades are works of art.

they are , i loved the main engine shroud it starts off at 5 tons and they machine it down to 500kilos

Incredibly complex bits of kit

[Lost soul]

chuntington101 said:

this level of engeering takes the P!SS out of the car industry! we are still drving around in cars with the same engine materials as 60yrs ago! where are the Ti components? where are the new alloys to lighten things up? where si the lelvel of detial that these things have?

Chris.

Thats not really true is it they use a lot of new materials in cars now

such weight savings are not needed in automotive engineering

[rhinochopig]

chuntington101 said:

tank slapper said:

There is some seriously impressive engineering that goes into those engines. The turbine blades are works of art.

That is an understatment! lol each one is machined to something like 1/1000th mm. basically all are identical. and the way they are cast is unreal. grown form a single cristal of alloy into the whole blade. unreal.

and the Tig hand welled compresor side is just amazing. Bet they are better than you local exhaust fabricators! lol also they showed a test of what would happen if a fan blade can loose. suffice to say NOTHING let the engine casing at all! looks spectacular but soo controlled! also they showed a test of blasting goodness only knows how much water directly into the engine and it has to maintain the same amount of thrust as normal.

my dad also told me they used to throw frozed chickens into them at full revs to test them. be intresting to see that. lol

this level of engeering takes the P!SS out of the car industry! we are still drving around in cars with the same engine materials as 60yrs ago! where are the Ti components? where are the new alloys to lighten things up? where si the lelvel of detial that these things have?

Chris.

Don't be too hard on the car industry - very very different requirements and turbines are actually rather simple machines. Yes R-R engineering is impressive, but then so is engineering a car, which requires bringing together tens of thousands of individual parts to form a reliable working vehicle. R-R just make engines don't forget (well they have a surprisingly wide product range but my point is they don't build the aircraft as well)

Ex R-R engineer here.

[anonymous-user]

chuntington101 said:

Also my dad worked on the Design team for the RB211, the predisesor to the trent engines and the first 3shaft jet engine. He worked on the T4 design.

You should be proud of him, the RB211 is a top engine. I took a large bird into one on rotation and it kept producing thrust despite three of the fan blades being badly damaged.

[rhinochopig]

el stovey said:

chuntington101 said:

Also my dad worked on the Design team for the RB211, the predisesor to the trent engines and the first 3shaft jet engine. He worked on the T4 design.

You should be proud of him, the RB211 is a top engine. I took a large bird into one on rotation and it kept producing thrust despite three of the fan blades being badly damaged.

I'm guessing that's a tale about FOD and not a description about a date you once had.

[dr_gn]

rhinochopig said:

chuntington101 said:

tank slapper said:

There is some seriously impressive engineering that goes into those engines. The turbine blades are works of art.

That is an understatment! lol each one is machined to something like 1/1000th mm. basically all are identical. and the way they are cast is unreal. grown form a single cristal of alloy into the whole blade. unreal.

and the Tig hand welled compresor side is just amazing. Bet they are better than you local exhaust fabricators! lol also they showed a test of what would happen if a fan blade can loose. suffice to say NOTHING let the engine casing at all! looks spectacular but soo controlled! also they showed a test of blasting goodness only knows how much water directly into the engine and it has to maintain the same amount of thrust as normal.

my dad also told me they used to throw frozed chickens into them at full revs to test them. be intresting to see that. lol

this level of engeering takes the P!SS out of the car industry! we are still drving around in cars with the same engine materials as 60yrs ago! where are the Ti components? where are the new alloys to lighten things up? where si the lelvel of detial that these things have?

Chris.

Don't be too hard on the car industry - very very different requirements and turbines are actually rather simple machines. Yes R-R engineering is impressive, but then so is engineering a car, which requires bringing together tens of thousands of individual parts to form a reliable working vehicle. R-R just make engines don't forget (well they have a surprisingly wide product range but my point is they don't build the aircraft as well)

Ex R-R engineer here.

Plus, R-R don't mass produce engines by any stretch of the imagination. Each one's hand built with all the associated work that takes.

[Munter]

Blade test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-8_Gnbp2JA

Bird test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSafRuLB0c0

[Simpo Two]

chuntington101 said:

my dad also told me they used to throw frozed chickens into them at full revs to test them. be intresting to see that. lol

The only story I know involving frozen chickens concerned the 'gun' they used to test aircraft windscreens against bird strikes. We used fresh chickens, then sent the gun to America. They reported that every windscreen broke - until it was discovered they were firing frozen chickens. Or maybe it's an urban myth, dunno.

chuntington101 said:

this level of engeering takes the P!SS out of the car industry! we are still drving around in cars with the same engine materials as 60yrs ago! where are the Ti components? where are the new alloys to lighten things up? where si the lelvel of detial that these things have?

How much would the average family hatchback cost if it was engineered to RR jet standards? It would be ridiculous not just on price but in engineering overkill. If a car engine goes wrong you just roll to a stop and call the AA. If a plane engine goes wrong you have to swim 2,000 miles to land!

[rhinochopig]

dr_gn said:

rhinochopig said:

chuntington101 said:

tank slapper said:

There is some seriously impressive engineering that goes into those engines. The turbine blades are works of art.

That is an understatment! lol each one is machined to something like 1/1000th mm. basically all are identical. and the way they are cast is unreal. grown form a single cristal of alloy into the whole blade. unreal.

and the Tig hand welled compresor side is just amazing. Bet they are better than you local exhaust fabricators! lol also they showed a test of what would happen if a fan blade can loose. suffice to say NOTHING let the engine casing at all! looks spectacular but soo controlled! also they showed a test of blasting goodness only knows how much water directly into the engine and it has to maintain the same amount of thrust as normal.

my dad also told me they used to throw frozed chickens into them at full revs to test them. be intresting to see that. lol

this level of engeering takes the P!SS out of the car industry! we are still drving around in cars with the same engine materials as 60yrs ago! where are the Ti components? where are the new alloys to lighten things up? where si the lelvel of detial that these things have?

Chris.

Don't be too hard on the car industry - very very different requirements and turbines are actually rather simple machines. Yes R-R engineering is impressive, but then so is engineering a car, which requires bringing together tens of thousands of individual parts to form a reliable working vehicle. R-R just make engines don't forget (well they have a surprisingly wide product range but my point is they don't build the aircraft as well)

Ex R-R engineer here.

Plus, R-R don't mass produce engines by any stretch of the imagination. Each one's hand built with all the associated work that takes.

http://www.rolls-royce.com/marine/products/diesels...

[anonymous-user]

Simpo Two said:

If a plane engine goes wrong you have to swim 2,000 miles to land!

Only on single engined aircraft and not too many of them fly 2,000 miles from land

[FourWheelDrift]

Don't forget the 24hr engine monitoring of every RR engine in current use aorund the world.

(Ring Ring) "Hello is that Air Uganda? This is Bob from Rolls Royce. Looking at my screen I can see number 2 engine on your 767 currently flying over Tanzania is running a little hot I suggest you carry out a 89 point check on it's next stop"

!!!!!!!

Not quite how its done but you get the idea.

[Lost soul]

FourWheelDrift said:

Don't forget the 24hr engine monitoring of every RR engine in current use aorund the world.

That was quite amazing

[dr_gn]

rhinochopig said:

dr_gn said:

rhinochopig said:

chuntington101 said:

tank slapper said:

There is some seriously impressive engineering that goes into those engines. The turbine blades are works of art.

That is an understatment! lol each one is machined to something like 1/1000th mm. basically all are identical. and the way they are cast is unreal. grown form a single cristal of alloy into the whole blade. unreal.

and the Tig hand welled compresor side is just amazing. Bet they are better than you local exhaust fabricators! lol also they showed a test of what would happen if a fan blade can loose. suffice to say NOTHING let the engine casing at all! looks spectacular but soo controlled! also they showed a test of blasting goodness only knows how much water directly into the engine and it has to maintain the same amount of thrust as normal.

my dad also told me they used to throw frozed chickens into them at full revs to test them. be intresting to see that. lol

this level of engeering takes the P!SS out of the car industry! we are still drving around in cars with the same engine materials as 60yrs ago! where are the Ti components? where are the new alloys to lighten things up? where si the lelvel of detial that these things have?

Chris.

Don't be too hard on the car industry - very very different requirements and turbines are actually rather simple machines. Yes R-R engineering is impressive, but then so is engineering a car, which requires bringing together tens of thousands of individual parts to form a reliable working vehicle. R-R just make engines don't forget (well they have a surprisingly wide product range but my point is they don't build the aircraft as well)

Ex R-R engineer here.

Plus, R-R don't mass produce engines by any stretch of the imagination. Each one's hand built with all the associated work that takes.

http://www.rolls-royce.com/marine/products/diesels...

Har har.. I meant aero engines.

[RizzoTheRat]

Can anyone remember what this was called? I wouldn't mind watching it if I can find it on iPlayer. I used to design bits of EJ200 for them.

[rhinochopig]

RizzoTheRat said:

Can anyone remember what this was called? I wouldn't mind watching it if I can find it on iPlayer. I used to design bits of EJ200 for them.

Part of the "how to build..." series

[Munter]

rhinochopig said:

RizzoTheRat said:

Can anyone remember what this was called? I wouldn't mind watching it if I can find it on iPlayer. I used to design bits of EJ200 for them.

Part of the "how to build..." series

What he said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00t0yx9/How_...