Amazingly cool and interesting plane footage

Amazingly cool and interesting plane footage

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Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Thursday 16th August 2018
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbwM-nBKVaI

Unexpected antics from a civil Hercules.

1.44 yikes

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

185 months

Thursday 16th August 2018
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Lightweight, and the C130J has a lot more grunt than the C130K did. Nice Tac departure.

That doesn't look like a loop to me though, more a stretched out wingover; the a/c is rolling and pitching together. Additionally the Max G limit on C-130K was 3G (I assume the J is the same) so I'm not even sure you could achieve a full blown loop without an overstress.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Thursday 16th August 2018
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Lightweight, and the C130J has a lot more grunt than the C130K did. Nice Tac departure.

That doesn't look like a loop to me though, more a stretched out wingover; the a/c is rolling and pitching together. Additionally the Max G limit on C-130K was 3G (I assume the J is the same) so I'm not even sure you could achieve a full blown loop without an overstress.
I was thinking in terms of a Chandelle with a wing over, but it's very difficult to tell without multiple angles.

Scotty2

1,276 posts

267 months

Thursday 16th August 2018
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Certainly giving it some. You can hear the crockery getting thrown around the cabin...

Eric Mc

122,077 posts

266 months

Thursday 16th August 2018
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I saw the C-130 display most days - although I missed the "loop" (or whatever it was). It was indeed impressive.

Trevatanus

11,128 posts

151 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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Dr Jekyll said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbwM-nBKVaI

Unexpected antics from a civil Hercules.

1.44 yikes
I was there... Looked like a loop to me, and it was advertised as such,
Would be surprised, given the crowd if he didn't loop it on that basis.

Cheeky Jim

1,274 posts

281 months

Wednesday 5th September 2018
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Interesting film on the Gannett - I didn't realise there was one still flying....

We were at the Fleet Air Arm Museum the other week and they have one on display... big old ugly bird... but strangely captivating!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnoWIePrKqc

PRTVR

7,122 posts

222 months

Wednesday 5th September 2018
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Cheeky Jim said:
Interesting film on the Gannett - I didn't realise there was one still flying....

We were at the Fleet Air Arm Museum the other week and they have one on display... big old ugly bird... but strangely captivating!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnoWIePrKqc
As you say an ugly bird, but did its job well, if it hadn't been retired just before the Falklands war, things would have been very different ( yes it also needed cat and trap )
The engine is interesting ( there is one on display at Duxford) it actually twin jet and in flight one could be shut down to save fuel.
The present AEW helicopters for me really don't cut it for me,they are operating in an area they were never designed for, hopefully a drone will be able to do the job in the future.

CobolMan

1,417 posts

208 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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The old conatant speed variable noise machine as my old dad used to call it and pilots did shut down one half of the Twin Mamba turboprop to extend the range.
The one flying in the US is a T5, made up of bits from several aircraft I believe. An AEW3 (XL500) that my dad flew was being restored to fly in this country although things have gone a bit quiet on that front.

ben5575

6,293 posts

222 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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CobolMan said:
The old conatant speed variable noise machine as my old dad used to call it and pilots did shut down one half of the Twin Mamba turboprop to extend the range.
From what a read, each engine drove a separate propeller so this technique meant it appeared to be flying with the engine stopped,



MartG

20,695 posts

205 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Dr Jekyll said:
CobolMan said:
The old conatant speed variable noise machine as my old dad used to call it and pilots did shut down one half of the Twin Mamba turboprop to extend the range.
From what a read, each engine drove a separate propeller so this technique meant it appeared to be flying with the engine stopped,
Yes - they'd shut one down then after an hour restart it and shut the other one down to keep the engine hours more or less equal

Escapegoat

5,135 posts

136 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Scotty2 said:
Certainly giving it some. You can hear the crockery getting thrown around the cabin...
My poor old mum did 4000 miles non-stop in a Hercules a few times. I think I'd have preferred a loop with flying cutlery!

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

185 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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That must have been AAR sorties then because the max ferry range of a C130K was around 2400Nm.


Escapegoat

5,135 posts

136 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Indeed, RAF Wideawake to RAF Stanley. Long, slow and cold, she said, and packed in with a lot of grumpy squaddies. ISTR she was a bit nonplussed by the lavatorial arrangements.

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

185 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Escapegoat said:
ISTR she was a bit nonplussed by the lavatorial arrangements.
From experience I can imagine she was!

Flat floor Hercs had either 3 or 4 urinals (one either side of the fuselage just aft of the ramp hinge) and 1 or 2 on the rear face of Stn 245 (the bulkhead between the freight bay and the flight deck).

Additionally there was an elsan just forward of the aft port urinal that was on a frame and which could be lowered into place when the ramp was closed. It had a curtain around it.

The urinals were connected to the a/c pressurisation system such that they continuously vented overboard during fight. The upshot of this was that they continuously gurgled. It was quite un-nerving!

CobolMan

1,417 posts

208 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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MartG said:
Yes - they'd shut one down then after an hour restart it and shut the other one down to keep the engine hours more or less equal
I've got a scanned slide of the engine instruments taken by the old man which shows exactly that. He told me once that if one of the props didn't feather correctly then they were going down.

eccles

13,740 posts

223 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Escapegoat said:
ISTR she was a bit nonplussed by the lavatorial arrangements.
From experience I can imagine she was!

Flat floor Hercs had either 3 or 4 urinals (one either side of the fuselage just aft of the ramp hinge) and 1 or 2 on the rear face of Stn 245 (the bulkhead between the freight bay and the flight deck).

Additionally there was an elsan just forward of the aft port urinal that was on a frame and which could be lowered into place when the ramp was closed. It had a curtain around it.

The urinals were connected to the a/c pressurisation system such that they continuously vented overboard during fight. The upshot of this was that they continuously gurgled. It was quite un-nerving!
Well not so much connected to A/C pressurisation system as just vented overboard with a hot air feed to the nozzles to stop them freezing up!
Not the most sophisticated system, or the most private to use.

CobolMan

1,417 posts

208 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Here's a pic of an AEW3 cockpit showing the left hand engine shut down and the right hand at almost 100%.


Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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