Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 2)
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tight5 said:
Ayahuasca said:
ChemicalChaos said:
XV582 was the aircraft that, in 1988, set the outright speed from Lands End to John O Groats at 46 minutes and 44 seconds.]
603 miles in 47 minutes is just 770mph, was it running on just one engine?Maybe it's two Russians in a costume? - https://youtu.be/E-bIMxB4zA8?t=24
CanAm said:
Nicely done, but the story refers to a Vampire fighter not a 2-seater.
I help out in a charity bookshop and last week we had this jigsaw puzzle, entitled "Battle of Britain, Summer of 1940"..........Nicely done, but 1940? Not quite.
And are those invasion stripes on the Whirlwind? Anachronistic for a Whirlwind never mind for 1940.I help out in a charity bookshop and last week we had this jigsaw puzzle, entitled "Battle of Britain, Summer of 1940"..........Nicely done, but 1940? Not quite.
In the Netflix series The Crown Lancasters are shown flying over Windsor Castle in 1940. Why? Surely they could CGI Wellingtons or Blenheims as easily as Lancs.
Eric Mc said:
Some original artwork for the book. Right mark of Vampire too (I think) -
I was tempted to buy this until I read the reviews on Amazon. They give you the dimensions of the book but NOT the number of pages. It is a short story rather than a novel, but charged as a full size paperback.Dr Jekyll said:
CanAm said:
Nicely done, but the story refers to a Vampire fighter not a 2-seater.
I help out in a charity bookshop and last week we had this jigsaw puzzle, entitled "Battle of Britain, Summer of 1940"..........Nicely done, but 1940? Not quite.
And are those invasion stripes on the Whirlwind? Anachronistic for a Whirlwind never mind for 1940.I help out in a charity bookshop and last week we had this jigsaw puzzle, entitled "Battle of Britain, Summer of 1940"..........Nicely done, but 1940? Not quite.
In the Netflix series The Crown Lancasters are shown flying over Windsor Castle in 1940. Why? Surely they could CGI Wellingtons or Blenheims as easily as Lancs.
eccles said:
Dr Jekyll said:
CanAm said:
Nicely done, but the story refers to a Vampire fighter not a 2-seater.
I help out in a charity bookshop and last week we had this jigsaw puzzle, entitled "Battle of Britain, Summer of 1940"..........Nicely done, but 1940? Not quite.
And are those invasion stripes on the Whirlwind? Anachronistic for a Whirlwind never mind for 1940.I help out in a charity bookshop and last week we had this jigsaw puzzle, entitled "Battle of Britain, Summer of 1940"..........Nicely done, but 1940? Not quite.
In the Netflix series The Crown Lancasters are shown flying over Windsor Castle in 1940. Why? Surely they could CGI Wellingtons or Blenheims as easily as Lancs.
I think the artwork is correct, even if all the aircraft depicted are not connected to the Battle of Britain. Whirlwinds did carry special ID markings (not D-Day Invasion stripes). In fact. so did Typhoons when first introduced.
When new types of aircraft entered RAF service, it was recognised that not all parties whose job it was to identify friend or foe would be fully aware of the shape and colours of these new aircraft. Most had been developed in secrecy so only those connected with the project or living close to the factory or test airfields will have seen the new aircraft up until they were introduced into service. To try and reduce the number of friendly fire incidents when new types were introduced, they were sometimes adorned (for a while anyway) with white noses and/or white stripes on the fuselage and wings.
There were also some operations prior to D-Day where "stripes" were painted on aircraft. Aircraft participating in Operation Jubilee (the disastrous raid on Dieppe) carried special markings.
This is artwork from a model kit of the Whirlwind which shows some of the ID markings they carried for a while.
When new types of aircraft entered RAF service, it was recognised that not all parties whose job it was to identify friend or foe would be fully aware of the shape and colours of these new aircraft. Most had been developed in secrecy so only those connected with the project or living close to the factory or test airfields will have seen the new aircraft up until they were introduced into service. To try and reduce the number of friendly fire incidents when new types were introduced, they were sometimes adorned (for a while anyway) with white noses and/or white stripes on the fuselage and wings.
There were also some operations prior to D-Day where "stripes" were painted on aircraft. Aircraft participating in Operation Jubilee (the disastrous raid on Dieppe) carried special markings.
This is artwork from a model kit of the Whirlwind which shows some of the ID markings they carried for a while.
Eric Mc said:
I think the artwork is correct, even if all the aircraft depicted are not connected to the Battle of Britain. Whirlwinds did carry special ID markings (not D-Day Invasion stripes). In fact. so did Typhoons when first introduced.
When new types of aircraft entered RAF service, it was recognised that not all parties whose job it was to identify friend or foe would be fully aware of the shape and colours of these new aircraft. Most had been developed in secrecy so only those connected with the project or living close to the factory or test airfields will have seen the new aircraft up until they were introduced into service. To try and reduce the number of friendly fire incidents when new types were introduced, they were sometimes adorned (for a while anyway) with white noses and/or white stripes on the fuselage and wings.
That's interesting. So for a 1940 Whirlwind it could be appropriate. When new types of aircraft entered RAF service, it was recognised that not all parties whose job it was to identify friend or foe would be fully aware of the shape and colours of these new aircraft. Most had been developed in secrecy so only those connected with the project or living close to the factory or test airfields will have seen the new aircraft up until they were introduced into service. To try and reduce the number of friendly fire incidents when new types were introduced, they were sometimes adorned (for a while anyway) with white noses and/or white stripes on the fuselage and wings.
Eric Mc said:
I think the artwork is correct, even if all the aircraft depicted are not connected to the Battle of Britain..............
Unfortunately I can't remember the name of the artist, but I checked at the time and he is a well respected aviation artist so I'm sure Eric is correct.I'm fairly certain that the blame lies with the manufacturer and their labelling rather than with the artist.
Dr Jekyll said:
That's interesting. So for a 1940 Whirlwind it could be appropriate.
No, the Whirlwind as depicted is incorrect for 1940. The grey/green camouflage scheme for day fighters was introduced in 1941. When Whirlwinds entered service in 1940 they were in the previous earth/dark green upper surface scheme. They were later repainted in the grey/green scheme.The painting is inaccurate in that it referred to the Battle of Britain but a number of the aircraft depicted in the art work are in later war period colour schemes. The schemes are correct. The designation of the art work as being relevant to the Battle of Britain is not.
The other big change in 1941 was the change in the proportions of the different elements of the red white and blue roundels and fin flashes. They had been in equal proportions. The new ones had the white area much reduced. The yellow surround on the roundels was also reduced to a much thinner outline.
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