Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 2)
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LotusOmega375D said:
Is it a Piper Maris?
No, and being serious for a moment, it's quite a revelation to google the registration number 'N92D' to see just how many of the images it brings up are incorrectly labelled as "Cessna 172" or "Cessna Skyhawk". A lesson, perhaps, to do more than just a cursory web search before accepting a particular "fact" as the truth (not a dig at anyone on this thread, btw, just a general observation on modern life and over-reliance on t'internet).The Questair Venture appears to be an impressive performer. Cruising at 275mph, with a range of 1100 miles, space for two and some baggage, with class-leading climbing performance too. All with a small hangar footprint.
Described in this article as "the egg with legs", it might yet make a comeback... http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpos...
!CanAm said:
Eric Mc said:
Apparently they have a top speed of 300mph!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6XcP0xJNIA ...poor picture quality and ropey camera operation, though. Sorry.
yellowjack said:
No, and being serious for a moment, it's quite a revelation to google the registration number 'N92D' to see just how many of the images it brings up are incorrectly labelled as "Cessna 172" or "Cessna Skyhawk".
I just did and you're right! I found these two, and that undercarriage looks very narrow with the passengers and luggage BEHIND the main wheels. More like one of those old Gee Bee racers than a nice sporty plane for an amateur pilot! CanAm said:
yellowjack said:
No, and being serious for a moment, it's quite a revelation to google the registration number 'N92D' to see just how many of the images it brings up are incorrectly labelled as "Cessna 172" or "Cessna Skyhawk".
I just did and you're right! I found these two, and that undercarriage looks very narrow with the passengers and luggage BEHIND the main wheels. More like one of those old Gee Bee racers than a nice sporty plane for an amateur pilot! Eric Mc said:
100% agree - as well as being a bit rude. If someone puts up a picture, I think they have an obligation to explain what the picture shows or what is happening in the picture instead of answering "Just Google it" if someone deigns to ask. To me, that's the height of bad manners.
To be fair, it's often not the person who posts the picture that snaps back with "Google it". Taking the Operation Manna example, I guessed that from the low flying Lancasters over a "typically Dutch" windmill scene. But I wasn't sure because I'd not seen that particular image before, even when reading about the Manna ops and ceasefires.
The wonderful thing about the internet is that now we have access to so much more information, and many more images, as people can now scan and upload old pictures for themselves, not having to wait for a publisher to take them up. But the flip-side of that is that old family photos can be wrongly attributed, incorrectly captioned, and tall tales (or genuine error/confusion) are written up as historical fact. So if a posted picture isn't captioned or attributed, it sometimes helps you to understand it (and further your own research on a subject) to ask the person that posted it about that image, and where they found it.
An example is a picture I have in an album. It's a 6" x 4" print, and it appears to be a photograph of me, in the door gunner position of a Bell UH-1 Iroquois. The helicopter is on the ground, and you can't see my face because the gunner's helmet visor is down. It was taken in January 1991 "somewhere in Saudi Arabia". All is well, until I confess that the person in the picture is not me. It's my mate Alec. He took a picture of me with his camera, I took a picture of him with my camera. Then, when we returned to Germany, I got posted out of the unit before we could swap the photos over. but we were dressed identically, and of similar height and build. so there it is, in the album, to remind me of a moment in time. It reminds me of a happier time, when we still hoped that a full-on ground war could be avoided, and we were relaxed and having a giggle with our American allies. But I could easily upload it, and claim that I was on an exchange posting, serving as a door gunner in an American Air Cavalry unit during the 1991 Gulf War. If I put that on the internet, it might even become accepted as a fact, and others might spread it for me.
Another example was when there was an attempt to "crate" me ("Crating" - to cause or require an individual to purchase a crate of beer for the benefit of others as a form of fine/punishment) for the "offence" of appearing in a photo on the cover of 'Soldier' magazine. The photo was of an armoured vehicle driver in the drivers hatch, helmet on, tinted goggles on, intercom mic over his mouth. It was in close-up, so I'd have remembered it being taken, but I didn't. Close inspection revealed a partial TRF (tactical recognition flash) in the image, containing a colour not on the Royal Engineer TRF. So it couldn't be me, and so I didn't have to buy a crate. Yet the myth still persisted that the soldier in the photo was me (even I thought it looked like me, hence having to prove it wasn't. Even my wife was convinced, at first, that it was me!), with people jokingly asking me to sign the cover of their copy of the magazine...
I wish my printer/scanner still worked. Then I could post up some cool pictures of aircraft instead of derailing the thread like this. Sorry...
Whoops, missed the pictures......
yellowjack said:
No, and being serious for a moment, it's quite a revelation to google the registration number 'N92D' to see just how many of the images it brings up are incorrectly labelled as "Cessna 172" or "Cessna Skyhawk".
I just did and you're right! I found these two, and that undercarriage looks very narrow with the passengers and luggage BEHIND the main wheels. More like one of those old Gee Bee racers than a nice sporty plane for an amateur pilot! 
Eric Mc said:
100% agree - as well as being a bit rude. If someone puts up a picture, I think they have an obligation to explain what the picture shows or what is happening in the picture instead of answering "Just Google it" if someone deigns to ask. To me, that's the height of bad manners.
I disagree about the obligation to caption. II sometimes post what I believe is an interesting picture but do not necessarily explain what is going on as it is more fun to work it out from the context. I would explain if asked eg with the Op Manna pic, and would never reply ‘google it’ as that is rude. Opel-GT said:
reposted and quoted to add a caption. 
Traditionally, on leaving overhaul at St Athan, aircraft would do a fly-by for the benefit of the groundcrew who had worked on it. The pilot of this particular Phantom FG1, a retiring Wing Commander, was chatting to a member of the ground crew the day before the departure flight. He said he was going to fly between the hangars and that the guy should be ready with a camera to record the event. It was due to be his last flight, so he was going to do something 'special'. The groundcrew weren't too convinced of the pilot's claim, but stood around as usual anyway watching as the F4 took off, destination Leuchars. As the photo shows, the pilot was not joking, you can see the afterburner diamonds quite clearly in front of the hangar. You can also see personnel standing underneath it. The recently tuned Speys allegedly shook a man working in the roof of one of the hangars enough for him to fall and break his leg. These hangars are set east to west, about 75 yards apart, and you can estimate the height from the length of the Phantom. Immediately after the event, the pilot was contacted by the tower and was instructed in no uncertain terms to 'return and land immediately'. As I am told, he did so and was given a severe rollicking. I don't know what action was taken, but it was his last flight in any case. What a way to go out, I wonder if it ranks as one of the shortest logged emergency-free Phantom flights?
This story is not exaggerated - I don't know the original photographer, but the picture was taken on an ordinary instamatic camera, and then a blow-up was made. The original is, as a favour, temporarily in the possession of the current Station Commander at St Athan who is an ex-F4 jockey. From the enlargement I have made the Phantom as XV575. The aircraft was scrapped in September 1991, but its legacy has to be this photograph.
Opel-GT said:
reposted and quoted to add a caption.
Traditionally, on leaving overhaul at St Athan, aircraft would do a fly-by for the benefit of the groundcrew who had worked on it. The pilot of this particular Phantom FG1, a retiring Wing Commander, was chatting to a member of the ground crew the day before the departure flight. He said he was going to fly between the hangars and that the guy should be ready with a camera to record the event. It was due to be his last flight, so he was going to do something 'special'. The groundcrew weren't too convinced of the pilot's claim, but stood around as usual anyway watching as the F4 took off, destination Leuchars. As the photo shows, the pilot was not joking, you can see the afterburner diamonds quite clearly in front of the hangar. You can also see personnel standing underneath it. The recently tuned Speys allegedly shook a man working in the roof of one of the hangars enough for him to fall and break his leg. These hangars are set east to west, about 75 yards apart, and you can estimate the height from the length of the Phantom. Immediately after the event, the pilot was contacted by the tower and was instructed in no uncertain terms to 'return and land immediately'. As I am told, he did so and was given a severe rollicking. I don't know what action was taken, but it was his last flight in any case. What a way to go out, I wonder if it ranks as one of the shortest logged emergency-free Phantom flights?
This story is not exaggerated - I don't know the original photographer, but the picture was taken on an ordinary instamatic camera, and then a blow-up was made. The original is, as a favour, temporarily in the possession of the current Station Commander at St Athan who is an ex-F4 jockey. From the enlargement I have made the Phantom as XV575. The aircraft was scrapped in September 1991, but its legacy has to be this photograph.
They got him a job with Ryanair......Traditionally, on leaving overhaul at St Athan, aircraft would do a fly-by for the benefit of the groundcrew who had worked on it. The pilot of this particular Phantom FG1, a retiring Wing Commander, was chatting to a member of the ground crew the day before the departure flight. He said he was going to fly between the hangars and that the guy should be ready with a camera to record the event. It was due to be his last flight, so he was going to do something 'special'. The groundcrew weren't too convinced of the pilot's claim, but stood around as usual anyway watching as the F4 took off, destination Leuchars. As the photo shows, the pilot was not joking, you can see the afterburner diamonds quite clearly in front of the hangar. You can also see personnel standing underneath it. The recently tuned Speys allegedly shook a man working in the roof of one of the hangars enough for him to fall and break his leg. These hangars are set east to west, about 75 yards apart, and you can estimate the height from the length of the Phantom. Immediately after the event, the pilot was contacted by the tower and was instructed in no uncertain terms to 'return and land immediately'. As I am told, he did so and was given a severe rollicking. I don't know what action was taken, but it was his last flight in any case. What a way to go out, I wonder if it ranks as one of the shortest logged emergency-free Phantom flights?
This story is not exaggerated - I don't know the original photographer, but the picture was taken on an ordinary instamatic camera, and then a blow-up was made. The original is, as a favour, temporarily in the possession of the current Station Commander at St Athan who is an ex-F4 jockey. From the enlargement I have made the Phantom as XV575. The aircraft was scrapped in September 1991, but its legacy has to be this photograph.
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