Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 2)
Discussion
Without wanting to start a political debate. . .
Presumably these Ukrainian or any other former soviet state’s aircraft and bases (and ships , submarines, missiles, tanks etc) were all part of the USSRs forces before the breakup of the soviet union.
Why didn’t the Russians keep them? Or get them moved to Russia before they all became independent? Was it just the sudden nature of the collapse and the fact that all the crews and personnel were natives to the new countries they were based and Russia was basically unable to do anything after the collapse?
If Scotland became independent, Scotland wouldn’t automatically keep all the RAF aircraft or ships or boats in Lossiemouth or leuchars or anything in rosyth or HSNB Clyde.
Presumably these Ukrainian or any other former soviet state’s aircraft and bases (and ships , submarines, missiles, tanks etc) were all part of the USSRs forces before the breakup of the soviet union.
Why didn’t the Russians keep them? Or get them moved to Russia before they all became independent? Was it just the sudden nature of the collapse and the fact that all the crews and personnel were natives to the new countries they were based and Russia was basically unable to do anything after the collapse?
If Scotland became independent, Scotland wouldn’t automatically keep all the RAF aircraft or ships or boats in Lossiemouth or leuchars or anything in rosyth or HSNB Clyde.
Eric Mc said:
Ukraine did not leave the USSR. The USSR collapsed in chaos and bankruptcy.
I expect that if Scotland cuts its ties with the UK, it will not be because that the Uk has collapsed but because the UK has been dissolved.
Sure but after Russia got it’s act together, did they not want all these bits of military equipment back? I expect that if Scotland cuts its ties with the UK, it will not be because that the Uk has collapsed but because the UK has been dissolved.
Presumably some of the smaller new former soviet states ended up with equipment like icbms or early warning systems etc and bombers they couldn’t afford to or lacked capability to run as newly independent states? Which were integrated parts of the USSRs defence systems.
Or was all the important stuff located in Russia still?
El stovey said:
Sure but after Russia got it’s act together, did they not want all these bits of military equipment back?
Presumably some of the smaller new former soviet states ended up with equipment like icbms or early warning systems etc and bombers they couldn’t afford to or lacked capability to run as newly independent states? Which were integrated parts of the USSRs defence systems.
Or was all the important stuff located in Russia still?
Too long a gap. The equipment was left more or less derelict for at least a decade and it would be too difficult and costly to refurbish it. Also, as Russia and Ukraine are not exactly buddies at the moment, I don't see Ukraine releasing any of this stuff - even if it is scrap.Presumably some of the smaller new former soviet states ended up with equipment like icbms or early warning systems etc and bombers they couldn’t afford to or lacked capability to run as newly independent states? Which were integrated parts of the USSRs defence systems.
Or was all the important stuff located in Russia still?
JuniorD said:
MartG said:
Wonder how handy it would be to convert one of these to take 10 passenger seats; the basis for the next generation supersonic passenger aircraft could be staring us the face
Rider007 said:
Ouch , whole lot of hurt there !!
Two things , where is the radar dish ?
Why does it look to have been serviced in grannies garage ?
What radar dish?Two things , where is the radar dish ?
Why does it look to have been serviced in grannies garage ?
They don't use A380s for shooting down baddies you know.
I know they have weather radar, but it's not like having an AN/APG-66 in the nose
"Deliberately dropped into the English Channel off HMS Ark Royal during the making of a Royal Navy safety film about the accidental loss of XT269 (031/R) from Ark Royal 15/2/1972 (which see). The safety training film re-staged the accident, and showed what to do to prevent it happening again"
Sorry Sir I wasn't looking can you show me again?
Sorry Sir I wasn't looking can you show me again?
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