Emergency Landings
Discussion
tontoro said:
cobra kid said:
Thoughts at the time were;
Will I see my wife and kids again?
How long can I tread water for?
Can I swim better with or without shoes?
Will I be on the news later?
If your nearest airport was irkustsk I doubt it's very likely you would have to consider treading water!Will I see my wife and kids again?
How long can I tread water for?
Can I swim better with or without shoes?
Will I be on the news later?
Not mine but my grandfather.
Cannot remember the full details but I will try and find out.
Basically took off for an internal us flight. Problems arose and lost hydraulics. Not sure to what degree. But it did mean they circled for 2 hours. He was moved to emergency exit and shown how to open the big door and deploy the slides.
In the end they landed at 300mph, luckily tyres didn't go. Stopped in 4.5miles on a 5 miles runway at a military base.
And what pisses me off is that the majority of the American passengers claimed compensation and one was given $250,000.
Details may be wrong.
Cannot remember the full details but I will try and find out.
Basically took off for an internal us flight. Problems arose and lost hydraulics. Not sure to what degree. But it did mean they circled for 2 hours. He was moved to emergency exit and shown how to open the big door and deploy the slides.
In the end they landed at 300mph, luckily tyres didn't go. Stopped in 4.5miles on a 5 miles runway at a military base.
And what pisses me off is that the majority of the American passengers claimed compensation and one was given $250,000.
Details may be wrong.
Hi,
actually you are meant to touch down on the main wheels at the same time, but its not easy to achieve thus one side contacts first. I guess it maybe depends on the aircraft type tho.
Rgds.
actually you are meant to touch down on the main wheels at the same time, but its not easy to achieve thus one side contacts first. I guess it maybe depends on the aircraft type tho.
Rgds.
Eric Mc said:
Firefoot said:
To top it off we were landing in pretty bad weather with side winds and the plane sort of landed on one wheel, then kind of fell onto the other wheel as weight shifted.
Sounds like a perfectly executed crosswind landing to me.Edited by Firefoot on Thursday 2nd September 08:36
XG332 said:
Not mine but my grandfather.
Cannot remember the full details but I will try and find out.
Basically took off for an internal us flight. Problems arose and lost hydraulics. Not sure to what degree. But it did mean they circled for 2 hours. He was moved to emergency exit and shown how to open the big door and deploy the slides.
In the end they landed at 300mph, luckily tyres didn't go. Stopped in 4.5miles on a 5 miles runway at a military base.
And what pisses me off is that the majority of the American passengers claimed compensation and one was given $250,000.
Details may be wrong.
Not wishing to be confrontational (and piss people off again!) Cannot remember the full details but I will try and find out.
Basically took off for an internal us flight. Problems arose and lost hydraulics. Not sure to what degree. But it did mean they circled for 2 hours. He was moved to emergency exit and shown how to open the big door and deploy the slides.
In the end they landed at 300mph, luckily tyres didn't go. Stopped in 4.5miles on a 5 miles runway at a military base.
And what pisses me off is that the majority of the American passengers claimed compensation and one was given $250,000.
Details may be wrong.
, but I think the story has been slightly exaggerated over time.Generally large jet runways are around 9000' in length which equals 1.5 nautical miles.
Large 'dromes such as Heathrow have 12,000' runways, ie 2 nautical miles.
While I realise that a nautical mile is larger than a statute mile (by 240 yds) I don't think there are any 5 mile length runways.
Even diversions for the Space Shuttle (such as Dakar [at 11,450'] and Ascension Island [at 10,019']) don't come close to 5 miles.
As for a 300kt landing (:O), I'd say there's some artistic license there!
Flintstone said:
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
'dromes
Who says this? Who uses such a word? Am I just not one of the in crowd?Don't worry though. You're not alone.
I've never, ever heard anyone in any capacity or scenario ever refer to any kind of aviation facility as a "drome" until now.
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 2nd September 23:50
An aborted take off not a landing
On a flight to Orkney a few years ago from Edinburgh the plane (a twin prop thing )lined up for the takeoff on the runway. Did all the flap checks. Powered up the engines and set off down the runway. About 3/4 the way into the take off the pilot braked so hard that everyone was flung forward in their seats and almost cut in two by their seat belts and alot off banging from bags falling about from the hold. The pilot then stopped the aircraft and came on intecom and said we had to o back to the terminal as there was a fault with the engines and we would need t go back to the terminal. Fairly certain we braked from about 100mph to 0 in the length of the aircraft.
On a flight to Orkney a few years ago from Edinburgh the plane (a twin prop thing )lined up for the takeoff on the runway. Did all the flap checks. Powered up the engines and set off down the runway. About 3/4 the way into the take off the pilot braked so hard that everyone was flung forward in their seats and almost cut in two by their seat belts and alot off banging from bags falling about from the hold. The pilot then stopped the aircraft and came on intecom and said we had to o back to the terminal as there was a fault with the engines and we would need t go back to the terminal. Fairly certain we braked from about 100mph to 0 in the length of the aircraft.
Crossflow Kid said:
Flintstone said:
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
'dromes
Who says this? Who uses such a word? Am I just not one of the in crowd?Don't worry though. You're not alone.
I've never, ever heard anyone in any capacity or scenario ever refer to any kind of aviation facility as a "drome" until now.
Edited by Crossflow Kid on Thursday 2nd September 23:50
Well, my recent interesting landing experience started out as a perfectly executed approach and landing in an Extra 300 into White Waltham runway 29 (perfectly executed, as I wasn't flying it, just hitching a lift).
As we were slowing, I was more than a little surprised as we gently sank down to the right, watched the prop shatter itself in front of me (I now have sympathy for those who manage to chew the ends from wooden props and not notice - not a hint of shock as the thing flew to pieces), and slewed off the runway, and ground to a halt.
Pointing, as it happens, directly at the burnt patch of ground where a Cirrus had managed to spectacularly immolate itself two days before on take-off. We'd taxied past it on the way out the day before, and I have to say that composites really do burn quite well when mixed with avgas.
The image of that Cirrus was clearly quite well imprinted on my mind, because I don't remember opening the canopy...only having it open, and then wondering whether I'd hit the jettison handle or opened it normally...a new prop and engine rebuild for a 300 is eye-wateringly expensive, but had I chucked the canopy over the side and shattered it, it may well have added 30% to the bill. It did appear be still on the hinges, and not about to hit the wing, and at that point I got my fat arse out of the aeroplane, toot sweet - beating my mate in the rear seat, who took the trouble to do some world-class swearing before following me.
The right wheel had come loose from the leg - the AAIB are still looking at that - and the leg, being made of fibreglass, wood and spit, simply folded back when it dug in.
The aircraft is now back in the air, thankfully.
As we were slowing, I was more than a little surprised as we gently sank down to the right, watched the prop shatter itself in front of me (I now have sympathy for those who manage to chew the ends from wooden props and not notice - not a hint of shock as the thing flew to pieces), and slewed off the runway, and ground to a halt.
Pointing, as it happens, directly at the burnt patch of ground where a Cirrus had managed to spectacularly immolate itself two days before on take-off. We'd taxied past it on the way out the day before, and I have to say that composites really do burn quite well when mixed with avgas.
The image of that Cirrus was clearly quite well imprinted on my mind, because I don't remember opening the canopy...only having it open, and then wondering whether I'd hit the jettison handle or opened it normally...a new prop and engine rebuild for a 300 is eye-wateringly expensive, but had I chucked the canopy over the side and shattered it, it may well have added 30% to the bill. It did appear be still on the hinges, and not about to hit the wing, and at that point I got my fat arse out of the aeroplane, toot sweet - beating my mate in the rear seat, who took the trouble to do some world-class swearing before following me.
The right wheel had come loose from the leg - the AAIB are still looking at that - and the leg, being made of fibreglass, wood and spit, simply folded back when it dug in.
The aircraft is now back in the air, thankfully.
Only one aborted landing at Kefalonia airport, we made the approach fine if a little too fast ( I have flown into Kef lots of times) came in over the water all lined up nice to drop down, as we were about 40feet from the runway the pilot seemed to falter, the plane twitched and acted like it was in windshear and then he properly powered up, quite steep and obviously most of the engine capacity used to get us up and out fast.
No real reason was given at the time, an announcement over the p.a. system about "sorry for the aborted landing, we are going about again" and we faffed about in the sky for half an hour more doing big circles.
A few people were a bit scared but to me the plane felt normal and there were no forced smiles on the stewards faces.
We went back around eventually and landed text book.
The reason for the aborted landing i later found out was the airtraffic controller on kef had popped out of the tower for bit and was nowhere to be found for a while and the pilot could not raise him on the radio and thought something was wrong and decided to play safe in case there was a problem.
Its not a big airport on kef !
No real reason was given at the time, an announcement over the p.a. system about "sorry for the aborted landing, we are going about again" and we faffed about in the sky for half an hour more doing big circles.
A few people were a bit scared but to me the plane felt normal and there were no forced smiles on the stewards faces.
We went back around eventually and landed text book.
The reason for the aborted landing i later found out was the airtraffic controller on kef had popped out of the tower for bit and was nowhere to be found for a while and the pilot could not raise him on the radio and thought something was wrong and decided to play safe in case there was a problem.
Its not a big airport on kef !
I was flying a single-engined Piper over the countryside south of Chicago a few years ago when the engine made a very loud bang, lost power, and made the plane shake pretty badly. As luck would have it, we were about 2000' over an airport at the time, so throttle to idle before the engine shook itself out, and did a modified circuit to land. Made a quick call on the radio to get other aircraft out the way then found I was a little high. Quick side-slip and landed, then rolled out off the runway onto the taxiway and stopped. Looked at my whiter than white passenger, and we then went to look at the problem. Turns out a mechanic over-torqued a spark-plug, and it blew clean out of it's cylinder.
We grabbed a lift back to our home airport and sunk a few beers!
We grabbed a lift back to our home airport and sunk a few beers!
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