Emergency Landings

[Flintstone]

Chuck328 said:

Wouldn't dare lean out an engine on the ground.

What if the ground were (say) 5000' AMSL? What then eh? Eh? How would you be? All alone. In the dark. With an owl!!

[eharding]

Chuck328 said:

eharding said:

Chuck328 said:

1200 rpm is the SOP for Lycoming powered Cessna and Piper light aircraft. Some of the variants may have had different settings ( I can't remember what the Seneca was) but for the ones I stooge about in 1200 is the exact reason to avoid plug fowling.

Wouldn't dare lean out an engine on the ground. If Messrs Cessna and Piper don't say to do it, don't.

Happy landings!

Well, it was certainly SOP in the Pitts (or face leaning it off to try and clear the plugs later). Leaving 1200 RPM in the Pitts would, in any case, have you pressing quite hard on the brakes to stop it heading off into the foliage.

The Yak, bless it, has a barometric mixture control, invariably runs over rich, but rarely fouls the plugs (probably because the Russian plugs are set up to run with all manner of vile muck that passed for Avgas in the Soviet days)

Yak huh? Your not one of the "Aerostars" are you? Known for displays across Europe but based in Essex?

No - they're a Yak 50 brigade - I've flown with a few of them, but lack a Yak 50 to join in the fun...the 52 is a bit too lardy to stay up with a 50 (let alone half a dozen of them)

[Chuck328]

Flintstone said:

Chuck328 said:

Wouldn't dare lean out an engine on the ground.

What if the ground were (say) 5000' AMSL? What then eh? Eh? How would you be? All alone. In the dark. With an owl!!

Where would I be? I wouldn't be. Simple. (But if I ever manage a full stop and go on Ben Nevis, I'll be sure to try and "lean out". I will of course report back directly to you sir with a full report;)

[foilist]

When I was about 7 I was with my family (me, my littel brother, mum & dad) flying out of Iran 1974 or 1975 on out summer holidays on a Pan Am 747. Over Turkey, one of the engines started to smoke, and the pilot turned around & went back to Tehran.

After several hours waitng in the terminal, we got back on board and started to take off. Just as we were about to take off (the nose gear was in the air at least) the repaired engine burst into flame (the flame was immediately put out) and the take off aborted and the plane came to a screeching halt, with panic, and screams everywhere and two very exited young boys shouting
"did you see that mummy! did you see that mummy!!! the engine caught fire!"
"I saw it!! I saw it!!"
"do you think we'll use the slides daddy? I want to use the slides! please daddy can we use the slides?"
"that was like the fair rides mummy can we do it again!!!"

After a long wait at the end of the runway we taxied back to the terminal to be told Pan Am would be flying another engine out to Tehran in about 24 hours.....Dad got us tranferred onto a JAL jumbo landing very late that evening.

[Flintstone]

Chuck328 said:

Flintstone said:

Chuck328 said:

Wouldn't dare lean out an engine on the ground.

What if the ground were (say) 5000' AMSL? What then eh? Eh? How would you be? All alone. In the dark. With an owl!!

Where would I be? I wouldn't be. Simple. (But if I ever manage a full stop and go on Ben Nevis, I'll be sure to try and "lean out". I will of course report back directly to you sir with a full report;)

Should you ever go on a tour try Samedan. At 5600' amsl you'll be fiddling with your mixture knob like a good 'un

[JW911]

eharding said:

...the 52 is a bit too lardy to stay up with a 50 (let alone half a dozen of them)

Now, we could really splash out and put 450hp in it. That would help a bit.

Can you lend me a couple of grand?

[astroarcadia]

http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2010/09/08/emer...

[eharding]

JW911 said:

eharding said:

...the 52 is a bit too lardy to stay up with a 50 (let alone half a dozen of them)

Now, we could really splash out and put 450hp in it. That would help a bit.

Can you lend me a couple of grand?

The reason you only ever see Sukhois for sale with 30 hours-since-overhaul 450hp Ivchenkos in them is that they tend to explode after 40 hours - bagsy you take it back to Barra with 39 hours on the clock....I'll be in the 18T, waiting to throw an inflatable life-raft at you!

[Ayahuasca]

Had an aborted takeoff once - a DC-9 out of Caracas, hurtling down the runway when an almighty BANG went off and the anchors went on, aircraft slewed to a stop.

One of the 'doors to automatic' emergency slides had deployed and inflated inside the cabin!

[fatboy b]

Ayahuasca said:

Had an aborted takeoff once - a DC-9 out of Caracas, hurtling down the runway when an almighty BANG went off and the anchors went on, aircraft slewed to a stop.

One of the 'doors to automatic' emergency slides had deployed and inflated inside the cabin!

Reminds me of a story an ex-BA flight engineer for DC10s told me. He was part of the training crew as well, so used to do the 6-month flight-crew check outs. This was done in Shannon as it's pretty quiet. On taxi-out they'd be given clearance to hold short of the CAT 3 marker. So men being men, they used to disarm the doors, open the forward one while one of the crew leans out so he can see the nose wheel. Then instructs the pilot to get the wheel right up to the line.

Then one day the Chief pilot for DC10s was on board. He's heard about this antic, and before anyone could stop him he said "I'll go and watch the wheel". Que the loud bang as the armed slide inflates right in front of No.1 engine.

They had to shut down the engine and taxi back with a big condom flapping around in the breeze. A few red faces!

Edited by fatboy b on Thursday 9th September 11:35