Do 17 found buried in sandbank
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Or, as the Sun puts it, 'Nazi jet found in sea off Kent 
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3122896/...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3122896/...
jmorgan said:
Is it me or does it not look like a Dornier 17? (yeah I know its on the sea bed and all that). Just asking.
Edit. Ah, upside down?
looks like one to meEdit. Ah, upside down?
Edited by jmorgan on Friday 3rd September 08:57
although it does look as if it had some kind of flying bomb under the stbd wing
There were numerous versions of the Do17. The picture posted above shows one of the earlier versions. later versions had larger cockpit areas. In 1940, an advanced derivative of the Do17, the Do215, began to be used. The aircraft on the sea bed couild be a Do215.
I doubt if it would have been carying a V1 under the wing. Air launched V1s were used during the war but the carrier aircraft was a version of trhe Heinkel He111.
Dornier 215
I doubt if it would have been carying a V1 under the wing. Air launched V1s were used during the war but the carrier aircraft was a version of trhe Heinkel He111.
Dornier 215
Alfa numeric said:
Work firewall's not letting me in to the Sun site (it's classed as pron!), can anyone upload the pictures?
Try this instead:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11174324
The BBC report is better overall. My hunch is that it is one of the later versions of the Do17 or possibly a 215.
The Flying Pencil nickname was not really appropriate for the versions with the larger crew compartments. Most of the original slimline Do17s had been retired to second line duties or training schools by the Spring of 1940.
The Flying Pencil nickname was not really appropriate for the versions with the larger crew compartments. Most of the original slimline Do17s had been retired to second line duties or training schools by the Spring of 1940.
I wonder to what extent they intend to restore it.
These days, the skills are there to restore it to all its glory - unlike back in the 1970s when the Halifax was recovered from a lake in Norway. It would be great to see a fully restored Do17/215/217,
These days, the skills are there to restore it to all its glory - unlike back in the 1970s when the Halifax was recovered from a lake in Norway. It would be great to see a fully restored Do17/215/217,
Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 3rd September 10:17
Eric Mc said:
The BBC report is better overall. My hunch is that it is one of the later versions of the Do17 or possibly a 215.
The Flying Pencil nickname was not really appropriate for the versions with the larger crew compartments. Most of the original slimline Do17s had been retired to second line duties or training schools by the Spring of 1940.
According to the Times (and via a random post an a forum I found - apologies to whover it was):The Flying Pencil nickname was not really appropriate for the versions with the larger crew compartments. Most of the original slimline Do17s had been retired to second line duties or training schools by the Spring of 1940.
Do17Z, WNr.1160, 7 Staffel, III.KG3 took off from St Trond in Belgium to attack Fighter airfields in Essex.
On August 26th 1940, this Do17Z was piloted by Feldwebel Willi Effmert, navigator Herman Ritzel, wireless operator Helmut Reinhardt and bomb aimer Heinz Huhn. While flying above cloud over the Strait of Dover the Dornier became separated from the rest of 7 Staffel. Some time after 1pm it was flying on its own when it was jumped at 13,000ft over Deal by a Boulton Paul Defiant of 264 Squadron from RAF Hornchurch.
With both his engines hit Effmert made a wheels-up landing on the Goodwin Sands at low water and the aircraft appears to have "ground looped" just before final impact, landing on its back and killing Reinhardt and Huhn. Effmert and Ritzel survived to be captured, and spent the remainder of their war as PoWs in Canada."
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