Rolls Royce have fixed the Airbus engine problem

Rolls Royce have fixed the Airbus engine problem

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Tango13

8,475 posts

177 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Mojocvh said:
The real Apache said:
Mojocvh said:
Some further damage pictures.



check the saw tooth out!





Ref. http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/gallery-e6frfq8...


A good case for mandatory fuel tank inerting on ALL airliners?? No doubt it'll never happen unless forced by regulation.

Edited by Mojocvh on Friday 3rd December 10:26
Christ on a penny farthing!! VERY, VERY LUCKY
Yes, the energy that the disintegrating engine component(s)released in such an explosive manner can be quoted in arbitrary figures, but seeing the internal wing damage puts it another light.

Lady Luck certainly smiled that day as the cabin was spared.
Lucky doesn't come close! yikes Some of that wing section must be 1/2" thick. I've worked with aircraft alloy and it's more like steel for strength which gives you an idea of how much of a bang it went with.

Simpo Two

85,701 posts

266 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Wouldn't the pilots have had some error messages/warnings that something was wrong before it went bang, and so shut down the engine?

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

199 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Simpo Two said:
Wouldn't the pilots have had some error messages/warnings that something was wrong before it went bang, and so shut down the engine?
Depends on the failure mechanism. In a gas turbine, if it's a blade letting go, then a crack will propagate in the blink of an eye and then boom. So realistically no warning.



Simpo Two

85,701 posts

266 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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I thought I heard on the news that it started with a fractured oil pipe somehow.

NDA

21,661 posts

226 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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M-J-B said:
The real Apache said:
If that list is real, the they were a gnats cock away from a huge disaster
A very close friend of mine works for the CAA, and whilst he keeps this type of information close to his chest, from what has been said, it was very, very close.

Airbus are potentially in a bit of trouble as the aircraft has only two failsafe somethings and should ideally have three.

I suspect there is a lot more to this then we know.
I had heard that they would have crashed were it not for the fact that there was either a double flight deck crew on board, or additional highly experienced flight deck crew on board - and this was purely luck.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

263 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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MarkK said:
Mojocvh said:
MarkK said:
Mojocvh said:
MarkK said:
Isn't that a list of things that still worked rather than a list of those that didn't?
Isn't that the point ie "what they were left with" ?
You posted in response to an earlier post of items that had failed saying that this was "the REAL list" - it therefore appeared you were discrediting the previous list in favour of your own source. Flight Global was detailing SOME of the systems left available and therefore it cannot be assumed that systems not named had all failed.
Actually,

I wrote,

"The REAL list .....well it's not been retracted yet...."

which was from a NAMED source, not some imaginary friend, and qualified it's authenticity with the second statement.



Get over it princess. frown
My issue isn't with your source (Flight Global wow that must have taken some digging), my issue is with you seemingly calling bullst just because someone respects a sources' wish to stay anonymous. And no need for the Princess bit - if you can't have a reasonable debate or respect other people's contributions then fk off and leave the adults to continue without you.
Fair enough then cock-head [futile I know, but infinitely satisfying] I shall bow out from BP&T and take my first hand knowledge of all things aerospace over the last 35 years with me, enjoy fellating yourself as only you know how.

Cheers!

Edited by Mojocvh on Saturday 4th December 23:37

The real Apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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Give the pilots their Chocolate medals

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Qantas...

Simpo Two

85,701 posts

266 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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We wil have to devise a Degree of Difficulty to each incident to decide whether the crew are worth a medal, or were simply flying it back.

You'd need to re-run it a simulator. If less than 50% of pilots bring it home the originals get a medal... value of metal going with percentile of simulator success...