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GTO Scott said:
It'll probably end up on Gadani Beach.
When they say 'no engines' presumably they cut down to the engine room and removed them? Invincible wasn't fitted with the sort of engine you could fit on a hand cart and wheel off the ship. Only other method I can think would be to chop them up in situ and remove in small chunks.
Yeah because its been running the same gas turbines for 25 years???When they say 'no engines' presumably they cut down to the engine room and removed them? Invincible wasn't fitted with the sort of engine you could fit on a hand cart and wheel off the ship. Only other method I can think would be to chop them up in situ and remove in small chunks.
Nots that hard to remove them
V8mate said:
Roberty said:
I'll have to give it a miss, no engines no joy!
How much for the Harriers though?
I heard the guy in the US that runs a Sea Harrier FA.2 only paid £1.5mill for it.
http://www.nallsaviation.com/
Seems a bargain!
I'll take two T.12's and two GR.9A's please although I'd probably have to canabalise the GR.9's to keep the T.12's in the air.
There's some probably unservicable Sea Harriers for sale here:
http://www.everettaero.com/
Harriers are ok, but these days it's Apaches FTW!How much for the Harriers though?
I heard the guy in the US that runs a Sea Harrier FA.2 only paid £1.5mill for it.
http://www.nallsaviation.com/
Seems a bargain!
I'll take two T.12's and two GR.9A's please although I'd probably have to canabalise the GR.9's to keep the T.12's in the air.
There's some probably unservicable Sea Harriers for sale here:
http://www.everettaero.com/
BeeRoad said:
Justayellowbadge said:
Moor it at Embankment and turn it into a car park.
ROI in about 3 weeks.
Excellent in theory, getting under a couple of the bridges to your mooring, a bit more tricky! ROI in about 3 weeks.
Depending how far along you wish to park it of course....
KrazyIvan said:
How ironic would it be if the Argintines bought it and used it to take back the Falklands?
Not as far-fetched as you might think.ARA Veinticinco de Mayo, the Argentinian carrier operational during the Falklands conflict was built by Cammell-Laird as HMS Venerable during the Second World War.
I figured the engines would have been replaced in service - gas turbines won't last 25 years. I just found it interesting that unless they were in particularly good condition or were deemed classified that manpower and money would be spent to remove them. If the generators are there, then you've still got 8 Paxman-Valenta V16's that i'm sure could be modified to give propulsion. And a Valenta at full chat makes one hell of a good noise
V8mate said:
The Moose said:
You're only adding the tender to cart...although it has been laid out in a rather peculiar manor!
How much is mild steel worth these days as scrap? I would hope that 9,500 tonnes of the stuff would get a halfway decent rate!
Cheers
The Moose
I doubt there's anything mild about that steel!How much is mild steel worth these days as scrap? I would hope that 9,500 tonnes of the stuff would get a halfway decent rate!
Cheers
The Moose
Cheers
The Moose
GTO Scott said:
I figured the engines would have been replaced in service - gas turbines won't last 25 years. I just found it interesting that unless they were in particularly good condition or were deemed classified that manpower and money would be spent to remove them. If the generators are there, then you've still got 8 Paxman-Valenta V16's that i'm sure could be modified to give propulsion. And a Valenta at full chat makes one hell of a good noise
I would imagine the engines would have been used as spares.If I was rich for that money it would be sold. How fking cool would it be turn up at a boating club and say "ok lads how do you like my boat *que pointing at big ass aircraft carrier*)
Just thought. Richard Branson should buy it. And get some sea harriers. Virgin Navy :P
Just thought. Richard Branson should buy it. And get some sea harriers. Virgin Navy :P
Edited by LukeSi on Monday 6th December 23:37
LukeSi said:
If I was rich for that money it would be sold. How fking cool would it be turn up at a boating club and say "ok lads how do you like my boat *que pointing at big ass aircraft carrier*)
I'd say by the time you've had it seaworthy and you've found the staff to operate it, you'd no longer be rich.
P924 said:
GTO Scott said:
I figured the engines would have been replaced in service - gas turbines won't last 25 years. I just found it interesting that unless they were in particularly good condition or were deemed classified that manpower and money would be spent to remove them. If the generators are there, then you've still got 8 Paxman-Valenta V16's that i'm sure could be modified to give propulsion. And a Valenta at full chat makes one hell of a good noise
I would imagine the engines would have been used as spares.mrmaggit said:
P924 said:
GTO Scott said:
I figured the engines would have been replaced in service - gas turbines won't last 25 years. I just found it interesting that unless they were in particularly good condition or were deemed classified that manpower and money would be spent to remove them. If the generators are there, then you've still got 8 Paxman-Valenta V16's that i'm sure could be modified to give propulsion. And a Valenta at full chat makes one hell of a good noise
I would imagine the engines would have been used as spares.ZesPak said:
LukeSi said:
If I was rich for that money it would be sold. How fking cool would it be turn up at a boating club and say "ok lads how do you like my boat *que pointing at big ass aircraft carrier*)
I'd say by the time you've had it seaworthy and you've found the staff to operate it, you'd no longer be rich.
The engines get replaced regurlarly. So many hours. One of her Olympus engines was put into Ark.
The engines are in a pool no longer run by Rolls Royce so get taken out of a ship, refurbed and put back in. The pool. They could noe be in a desroyer a Pakistani frigate dutch warship Brazillian ship etc.
Getting the modules out is part of the design of the engine room. They get moved on rails and taken out through the hangar and its lifts. Invincible could even carry a spare turbine. In the Falklands she changed one while at sea.
The Ventura diesels will have been robbed for spares too. They could not be made to drive the ship, they just generate power. The gas turbines fed into massive and I mean Massive reversing gearboxes. They will still be in the ship and will next see daylight when the ship is on the sands and cut down.
Invince was a great ship. She had her problems but its sad to see her go.
The engines are in a pool no longer run by Rolls Royce so get taken out of a ship, refurbed and put back in. The pool. They could noe be in a desroyer a Pakistani frigate dutch warship Brazillian ship etc.
Getting the modules out is part of the design of the engine room. They get moved on rails and taken out through the hangar and its lifts. Invincible could even carry a spare turbine. In the Falklands she changed one while at sea.
The Ventura diesels will have been robbed for spares too. They could not be made to drive the ship, they just generate power. The gas turbines fed into massive and I mean Massive reversing gearboxes. They will still be in the ship and will next see daylight when the ship is on the sands and cut down.
Invince was a great ship. She had her problems but its sad to see her go.
Edited by wildcat45 on Sunday 12th December 22:52
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