RE: You Know You Want To... Harrier Jump Jet

RE: You Know You Want To... Harrier Jump Jet

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will261058

1,115 posts

193 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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Strider said:
anonymous said:
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Engine cycles are running short, but unless something unforseen pops up (or they run out of money), it is airframe hours that will ground her. They had to do some pretty clever testing of grounded Vulcans just to get the permit to fly this far. We have this season and next season and they hope to do something special for 2012, which is the 60th anniversary of the first Vulcan flight, the 30th anniversary of its only use in conflict (The Falklands) and the Queen's Diamond Jubilee. You can fly your name on the bomb-bay doors by donating here: http://www.vulcantotheskystore.co.uk/category/WINT... and sign-up for their newsletter here: http://www.vulcantothesky.org/register.html . There is also an active Facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/pages/Vulcan-xh558/1704274... that carries pics of the winter service. This weekend you can win a copy of Vulcan 607 signed by Black Buck One and there will be a video of the Vulcan's Maxaret brake control system, like on a Jensen Interceptor. Ok, back to the day job !
Engines dont run on cycles. Engines are lifed on hours too, normally Total hours and Power hours. Power hours = Flight hours with engine running and Total hours = Flight hours with engines running + flight hrs with engine windmilling (shut down).

FestivAli

1,092 posts

239 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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I remember that a Mig 21 recently sold for just $7,000 AUD; less than half of what I paid for my Fiesta.

Just incidentally, according to the book British Combat Aircraft in Action Since 1945, by David Oliver, which my late grandad bought from a library in Amersham for 99p, the Harrier GR1 (not this one then, but like this a 1st gen Harrier) 'had a similar performance to that of the Hunter FGA9, while capable of carrying a full 5000lb warload up to 260 (!) miles'. That's not very far for a combat aircraft...

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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FestivAli said:
the Harrier GR1 (not this one then, but like this a 1st gen Harrier) 'had a similar performance to that of the Hunter FGA9, while capable of carrying a full 5000lb warload up to 260 (!) miles'. That's not very far for a combat aircraft...
West Germany to East Germany ain't far.

PaulG40

2,381 posts

226 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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will261058 said:
I seem to remember that more people went there for booze than for petrol wink
Cheap, slightly out of date booze at that! beer hic.

Eric Mc

122,079 posts

266 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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The original Harriers were fairly limited in their capabilities. It is one of the reasons why the RAF were not initially all that sold on the concept.

It was the versatility displayed by the Tripartite Kestrel squdron in the mid 1960s that encouraged them to think again.

hellrot_e34

348 posts

227 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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cptsideways said:
Apparently £9k yes £9k gets you a complete Tornado on its last hours from Qinetic
9k!!?? i really dont think so....

jaf01uk

1,943 posts

197 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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bermy boy said:
will261058 said:
That will be the one at the Buccaneer garage in Elgin then
Used to buy all my petrol there too!
Sorry, missed your earlier post Will, yes it is, paints starting to look a bit faded, Ian will have something planned I have no doubt...
Gary

urquattro

755 posts

187 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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Only this government of tossers can scrap such a fine and versatile plane, also plus the aircraft carrier that made up the set.
Never mind, they can always send an "enraged email" instead unless our french friends allow us the charter their kit.

Eric Mc

122,079 posts

266 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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No point in cahrtering kit if you have no one who can operate it.

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

215 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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Eric Mc said:
No point in chartering kit if you have no one who can operate itcan't even nearly afford to run it.
Fixed that for you. We are out of money and in truth we can't really afford all of what is left frown

smashbro

26 posts

161 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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Strider said:
The Vulcan people put out a release in December about running a Harrier: pretty tricky, it seems. http://www.vulcantothesky.org/news/151/82/Could-a-... Hope we are all contributing to keep the last flying Vulcan in the air. Only two more years of airframe time left before the last big bird has to retire.

Hail to the king baby! Saw my first Victor on the way home from Spain last year, 2 of my fave V bombers. Awesome photo!!

Eric Mc

122,079 posts

266 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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Only one other - the Valiant.


smashbro

26 posts

161 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Only one other - the Valiant.

Vulcan, Victor, Valiant. In that order. Still got a postcard of a Vulcan in full camo from when I was a kid, graced my bedroom walls for years.

Eric Mc

122,079 posts

266 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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There is also the forgotten "insurance policy" bomber - the Short Sperrin



I always think that all they did was stick some jet engines on a Stirling.

will261058

1,115 posts

193 months

Monday 7th February 2011
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jaf01uk said:
bermy boy said:
will261058 said:
That will be the one at the Buccaneer garage in Elgin then
Used to buy all my petrol there too!
Sorry, missed your earlier post Will, yes it is, paints starting to look a bit faded, Ian will have something planned I have no doubt...
Gary
Hi Gary,that will be good as long as its done right especially as its the only one left up here smile

Edited by will261058 on Monday 7th February 02:06

will261058

1,115 posts

193 months

Monday 7th February 2011
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PaulG40 said:
will261058 said:
I seem to remember that more people went there for booze than for petrol wink
Cheap, slightly out of date booze at that! beer hic.
Sounds fine to me tongue out

urquattro

755 posts

187 months

Monday 7th February 2011
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PS, there is Lightning on static display at the airport on road to Chatham, no need to buy it, a set of bolt croppers for the fence and a tow rope and 4 x 4 will do.
It needs a good home now, a trip through the local car wash or boy scouts doing a hand wash money raiser would make it look smart. Anything better than some tosser putting it on the scrappers low loader.

martin mrt

3,774 posts

202 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Only one other - the Valiant.

What a fabulous looking aircraft, I hope to go see the single remaining one with my son when he is a little older.

Eric Mc

122,079 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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Saw it only last November. She is now on display at Cosford having spent many years in the Bomber Command Hall at Hendon.

Airfix are issuing a 1/72 kit in the next few months which I will be buying.

Fabric 2.2

3,819 posts

193 months

Wednesday 9th February 2011
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