Pistonheads whisky cask
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Haven’t been following this thread so apologies if breaking etiquette but any interest in Irish whiskey on here? Just throwing it out there to see if it grows legs.
Haven’t been following this thread so apologies if breaking etiquette but any interest in Irish whiskey on here? Just throwing it out there to see if it grows legs.
Did we find cask 8 ? Make sure we keep the paper trail of ownership ! https://news.sky.com/story/forgotten-cask-of-rare-...
Hi Cask 1 2 and 3 owners, I'm sending this message on behalf of Iain (as he is still the cask administrator). We've been in touch with each other recently and he's asked me to send this message.
As some of you will remember, Casks 1, 2 and 3 were filled with Ben Nevis new make spirit back in mid May 2017 and as such have now been maturing for around 5.5 years. Our 'original' maturation length with Glenglassaugh spirit was 5 years.
If you follow WhiskyBroker on Facebook (or other social media channels possibly) you might be aware that they are having some issues sourcing bottles, metal capsules and corks with prices ever increasing. https://www.facebook.com/whiskybroker.co.uk/posts/...
To that end, what are everyone's feelings towards just getting the 3 casks bottled, or the alternative is to go through the sampling process and then asking Iain for his take on whether they should be bottled now or wait some more?
I've been in touch with WhiskyBroker ref their bottling timescales and currently, if we were to get our paperwork in before the Christmas closure, we would still be looking at March onwards - which just goes to show how busy they are.
If we get a majority decision (ie at least 5 people for each cask), I'll generate the paperwork for 'standard' 50cl bottles with 'standard' WB labels and caps etc - which is pretty much what we did for the last casks we had bottled (casks 4-7, 8 is still Missing in Action...).
in case you can't remember which casks you are in, the spreadsheet below should be able to remind you - ignore Cask 4, it has been bottled and the cask is no longer available.
I'll start us off by saying - Bottle please.
As some of you will remember, Casks 1, 2 and 3 were filled with Ben Nevis new make spirit back in mid May 2017 and as such have now been maturing for around 5.5 years. Our 'original' maturation length with Glenglassaugh spirit was 5 years.
If you follow WhiskyBroker on Facebook (or other social media channels possibly) you might be aware that they are having some issues sourcing bottles, metal capsules and corks with prices ever increasing. https://www.facebook.com/whiskybroker.co.uk/posts/...
To that end, what are everyone's feelings towards just getting the 3 casks bottled, or the alternative is to go through the sampling process and then asking Iain for his take on whether they should be bottled now or wait some more?
I've been in touch with WhiskyBroker ref their bottling timescales and currently, if we were to get our paperwork in before the Christmas closure, we would still be looking at March onwards - which just goes to show how busy they are.
If we get a majority decision (ie at least 5 people for each cask), I'll generate the paperwork for 'standard' 50cl bottles with 'standard' WB labels and caps etc - which is pretty much what we did for the last casks we had bottled (casks 4-7, 8 is still Missing in Action...).
in case you can't remember which casks you are in, the spreadsheet below should be able to remind you - ignore Cask 4, it has been bottled and the cask is no longer available.
I'll start us off by saying - Bottle please.
Just so people are aware - these casks will have matured MUCH more slowly than the originals and will be much more subtle than before.
I'm happy to go with a majority but the amount involved whilst more expensive probably wouldn't be crazy - Martin does not appear to be in the business of over-pricing. But his comments about availability of bought in's I did see the other week when he announced them. And lead time show's how busy he is and with the footings for extra warehousing going in he will be getting busier. Congratulations to him (and the team behind him).
The never ending piece of string is how much more they might develop if left a couple more years. Do we really want to wait to find out ? Compare a refill Octave at 5.5yrs to a ''cage'' bottling at Cadenheads at 8yo - probably similar.
I'm happy to go with a majority but the amount involved whilst more expensive probably wouldn't be crazy - Martin does not appear to be in the business of over-pricing. But his comments about availability of bought in's I did see the other week when he announced them. And lead time show's how busy he is and with the footings for extra warehousing going in he will be getting busier. Congratulations to him (and the team behind him).
The never ending piece of string is how much more they might develop if left a couple more years. Do we really want to wait to find out ? Compare a refill Octave at 5.5yrs to a ''cage'' bottling at Cadenheads at 8yo - probably similar.
I don't have any ownership in these casks, but it would also be a question if you get them refilled again? You might want a sample to get an idea on how much life is left in the cask again now? If it's still a lot more towards newmake you might call it a day on them (you'll likely lose a bunch of alcohol without getting cask impact if refilled another time). If they're working well you could perhaps do 1 more fill?
NRS said:
I don't have any ownership in these casks, but it would also be a question if you get them refilled again? You might want a sample to get an idea on how much life is left in the cask again now? If it's still a lot more towards newmake you might call it a day on them (you'll likely lose a bunch of alcohol without getting cask impact if refilled another time). If they're working well you could perhaps do 1 more fill?
Need to recharge them with a few months full of cheap port or sherry? Or is it not as simple as that? I know nothing, I just like drinking it. Might as well bottle it I guess, if it's anything like last time March will turn into May/June. 
I realise I've not heard from everyone and there are still a few people to respond, but as there have been no - leave it and do a sample*, I'm going to jump the gun and fill out the bottling forms and get them off to Iain to authorise and submit.
But having said all that - is there any benefit to us leaving it another 2-3 months so we can have a 6 year old whisky instead of a 5 year old whisky? If WB are forecasting a Mar onwards bottling timeframe, what's another few months if we get a different number on the label - any thoughts? I wonder how good WB's admin is if we put a 'not before' bottling date on the forms??
But having said all that - is there any benefit to us leaving it another 2-3 months so we can have a 6 year old whisky instead of a 5 year old whisky? If WB are forecasting a Mar onwards bottling timeframe, what's another few months if we get a different number on the label - any thoughts? I wonder how good WB's admin is if we put a 'not before' bottling date on the forms??
- Yes, I'm also aware that re-re-filled casks will take longer to mature as there is less 'flavour' in the wood to impart into the spirit - but I'm willing to take the chance....
Next question - whilst I was clarifying some points on the bottling form with WB, I asked if the casks could be refilled (re-re-re filled in some cases) and they said that whilst they don't currently have any new make spirit, they could set them aside and in the new year (or when they get spirit) they could be refilled - so what's everyone's thoughts? Only for Cask 1-3 'owners' but if they want to move their share on, it could possibly be opened up to a slightly wider audience perhaps?
I'm sending the forms across to Iain this afternoon and will probably ask to have the casks put aside (for potential refilling) as it's probably easier to do it that way than not having them put aside and then trying to find them again etc. Hopefully Iain will get the forms off to WB before they shut for Christmas, so it will be on the 'top of the pile' for when they start back in the New Year.
I'm sending the forms across to Iain this afternoon and will probably ask to have the casks put aside (for potential refilling) as it's probably easier to do it that way than not having them put aside and then trying to find them again etc. Hopefully Iain will get the forms off to WB before they shut for Christmas, so it will be on the 'top of the pile' for when they start back in the New Year.
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