Cadbury's after Kraft

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Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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paleopaleo##mumblemumblepaleopaleopaleo..gotta go kill a Mammoth, mumble..

The jiffle king

6,922 posts

259 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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h0b0 said:
PepsiCo Inc. (PEP) and Mondelez International Inc. (MDLZ) shareholders are wagering that salty and sweet are better together.

ETA - I work with both companies in a confidential manner but I DO NOT HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF ANY PLANS OTHER THAN THOSE I SAW IN THE LINKED ARTICLE. What I have said here should not been seen as inside information.

Edited by h0b0 on Friday 26th April 16:26
ooohhh I had seen the Pepsi share price rise, but not gotten wind of this... interesting

wok1

1 posts

130 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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I agree the taste is different, less cocoa and more cheaper sugar, The twin bar twirl in my opinion was made to the old recipe when all others had changed but now they have caught up and it is as awful as the rest.
Another great British product ruined by a US company



Wadeski

8,166 posts

214 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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I still want to see proof of this, until then I'm chalking it up as psychosomatic.

Why would you spend all that money (billions!) on a company to immediately risk its core business? Unless that core business was f*cked, which I dont think Cadbury's chocolate business was/is?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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Wadeski said:
I still want to see proof of this, until then I'm chalking it up as psychosomatic.

Why would you spend all that money (billions!) on a company to immediately risk its core business? Unless that core business was f*cked, which I dont think Cadbury's chocolate business was/is?
Often people buy a brand regardless of the product.

They tried the palm oil thing in NZ because they thought they could get away with it, cost savings would our do lost sales. Didnt work.

At the same time they dropped the bar size from 250g to 200g.

Now they have fantastic new bars with 20% more chocolate at 220g and are advertising it like mad... :/

folos

900 posts

143 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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Meh, just buy Galaxy.. that stuff still tastes alright

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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It's all abut profits.
dheads.

Roop

6,012 posts

285 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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It's the same for any company flogging FMCGs. You have to get your head round the fact that it's all about the marketing and really nothing to do with the product, let alone the heritage etc. Red Bull is an extreme example of this and if you're of a cynical persuasion, so is Ferrari - Making pretty cars to sell massively expensive licencing deals to purveyors of just about everything from keychains to amusement parks.

The supermarket regulars are all the same though - Nestlé, Kellogg's, Cadbury. They are all flogging a brand, nothing more.

I am fortunate to have seen Cadbury inside-out some years ago, before the Kraft acquisition. I worked alongside all sorts of people from facilities teams, production line staff right up to CxO level for Cadbury in the UK and for CSAB (Cadbury Schweppes Americas Beverages - now Dr Pepper Snapple Group) in the USA. This said, I still get upset that a British institution has been / is in the process of being ruined / assimilated / genericised.

Cadbury of course did it to others though - Neilsen in Canada has a fantastic heritage which became obscured under Cadbury rule and is now virtually obliterated by Kraft.

As for good chocolate and bad chocolate, well, the only good chocolate is the proper hand-made boutique stuff. All this guff about Swiss and Belgian chocolate being the best is smoke and mirrors (aka: Marketing). It's the same mass-produced crap that everyone else turns out, just to a different recipe. Try some proper hand-made chocolate from one of the few specialists in the UK, the US or anywhere and it's as good as anything that came out of Switzerland or Belgium.

Matt_N

8,904 posts

203 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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The missus only eats Cadbury chocolate, yes I've tried her on other stuff and we've both noticed that something has changed.

Most obviously seems to be the texture, the last few bars we've had have all been a bit more grainy and not as smooth as Dairy Milk used to be.

BarnFind

494 posts

147 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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Irish made Cadburys Diary Milk historically was miles ahead in the taste department than the UK made bar.it was something to do with using fresh milk here rather than powder in the UK factories.Haven't had a bar in years now that i think of it.

CarTimeNow

956 posts

167 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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it definitely changed, can't eat it now without getting very ill!!

i've moved to lidl chocolate and for a treat some hotel chocolat