Show us your whisky! Vol 2

[Pflanzgarten]

Signatory are one of my consistently great bottlers, it's always bought to drink but I usually regret not buying one to keep for the future as well.

As above, I don't see them as great money spinners as it's often one off stuff but it can be great drinkable whisky that's unusual.

It'll probably be worth a little more next year as it's a 50th birthday birth year for someone.

[NRS]

PushedDover said:

My 10’minute Google came up with nothing.
Is it a dud ? Or a dude?
Can I afford to replace SWMBO’s horse in its sale ?


Guidance please !!

I'd be more positive than the others so far, but I doubt it can replace a horse!

It's from one of the 3 closed distilleries in Inverness - closed distillery = more value.
It's around 87 points on Whiskybase - a bit less good, that's a generally "average" score for a single cask. Generally the value starts to rocket around 90+ points.
It's a Signatory dumpy bottle - in general these are more valuable than some of their other designs so that is good.
Last time it has sold in auctions seems to be around 2019 with a quick check in some of the big ones: https://www.scotchwhiskyauctions.com/auctions/134-...

I'd hazard a guess the value would be around £300-700 in today's market. Prices have dropped for quite a lot of stuff but I think this one shouldn't be too impacted given the age. It's not one of the popular distilleries to collect, if it is people buying for a tasting I'd guess towards the £300-400 range, if you were lucky it could go towards the £700 range if there is a few Glen Albyn collectors trying to finish a collection, but I doubt there is many of them. Glen Mhor is probably a bit more popular of the Inverness distilleries partly due to Jason's recent work on it.

Using Millburn as an example:
https://whiskyauctioneer.com/lot/5150651/millburn-...
https://whiskyauctioneer.com/lot/342225/millburn-1...

Edited by NRS on Thursday 2nd November 10:04

[NRS]

Speaking about Signatory, the company is changing owners at the moment. Andrew is retiring/moving onto more of a wine focus. Kirsch is slowly taking over from what I've heard.

Also, rumours are that one distillery which was sold in the not too distant past is having a bit of a controversy. On a staff wedding a birth year cask was opened for the couple to try, upon which it was very obvious the cask didn't contain what it was supposed to. Further investigation shows it is not the only cask either, so there is now a huge investigation into what is real or not. It's likely to get pretty messy, how can you be sure what you are selling is what it says/when was the stuff swapped out/what is the impact for private cask owners/if it was done before the distillery sale what happens there etc...

[PushedDover]

Superb PH comments - thanks a lot.
In summary - one to revere, but worth less than £1k

So, on the shelf it remains to be enjoyed with my friends, as intended when gifted it 20years ago

Thank you
:cheers:

[Blown2CV]

Ardbeg Anamorphic on committee sale today. Sounds like it might be interesting and the marketing doesn't wind me up for once, but it's still ultimately NAS for £130.

[C70R]

Blown2CV said:

Ardbeg Anamorphic on committee sale today. Sounds like it might be interesting and the marketing doesn't wind me up for once, but it's still ultimately NAS for £130.

Interesting to see that they've charred the barrels beyond what the bourbon distillery did. I've not seen that much.

I remember the head distiller at Barton talking through how scientific the charring process was for their bourbon barrels. Far more interesting than I expected.

[C70R]

PushedDover said:

Superb PH comments - thanks a lot.
In summary - one to revere, but worth less than £1k

So, on the shelf it remains to be enjoyed with my friends, as intended when gifted it 20years ago

Thank you
:cheers:

The best use for whisky in my humble opinion.

[Blown2CV]

C70R said:

Blown2CV said:

Ardbeg Anamorphic on committee sale today. Sounds like it might be interesting and the marketing doesn't wind me up for once, but it's still ultimately NAS for £130.

Interesting to see that they've charred the barrels beyond what the bourbon distillery did. I've not seen that much.

I remember the head distiller at Barton talking through how scientific the charring process was for their bourbon barrels. Far more interesting than I expected.

sounds fairly similar to how they produced Alligator, which was great.

[carrera al]

This was a project I worked on some time ago, a The Classic Islay Collection, a selection of 5 Malt Whiskies. They make a nice collectors piece alongside a signed print of the woodcarving. Almost too good to break open.

[NRS]

That looks very nice together! The Port Ellen will be popular too these days.

PushedDover said:

Superb PH comments - thanks a lot.
In summary - one to revere, but worth less than £1k

So, on the shelf it remains to be enjoyed with my friends, as intended when gifted it 20years ago

Thank you
:cheers:

Sounds like a good plan!

C70R said:

Blown2CV said:

Ardbeg Anamorphic on committee sale today. Sounds like it might be interesting and the marketing doesn't wind me up for once, but it's still ultimately NAS for £130.

Interesting to see that they've charred the barrels beyond what the bourbon distillery did. I've not seen that much.

I remember the head distiller at Barton talking through how scientific the charring process was for their bourbon barrels. Far more interesting than I expected.

It's pretty common to rechar the barrels for whisky, if you manage to go to the Speyside Cooperage up in Speyside you'll see them doing it. It's just most of the time they don't talk about it on the whisky bottle blurb like Ardbeg have. Another name you might see for similar stuff is STR (shaved, toasted, recharred) to help add more wood influence to older tired casks.

[C70R]

NRS said:

It's pretty common to rechar the barrels for whisky, if you manage to go to the Speyside Cooperage up in Speyside you'll see them doing it. It's just most of the time they don't talk about it on the whisky bottle blurb like Ardbeg have. Another name you might see for similar stuff is STR (shaved, toasted, recharred) to help add more wood influence to older tired casks.

Weirdly I've been to the Speyside Cooperage, and watched the craftsmanship in awe from that gantry, but I don't recall the recharring bit at all.

[NRS]

It’s towards the back on the left hand side. I’d guess they aren’t doing it all the time. There’s also an area where they steam the barrels round the back out of view.

[C70R]

NRS said:

It’s towards the back on the left hand side. I’d guess they aren’t doing it all the time. There’s also an area where they steam the barrels round the back out of view.

A fabulous place. Can't recommend it enough, even if just to appreciate the artform that is rebuilding a barrel.

[C70R]

Bit of an odd/disjointed 'flight', but I just grabbed three that I fancied comparing this evening.

The Brackla port finish is a real rarity (No 51/221), and much more delicate than the others. The Milroy's/Eadie Mannochmore 13 is one of my favourite Speysides at sub-£100. And the Ardbeg is a great slap in the face to finish with.

[Philrose]

My latest addition of whiskies to be shared and enjoyed.

[eein]

A tip for visiting the cooperage... there's a road up the back of the place where you can get cracking views of the barrels piled up in their yard. While you can wander around it, there's plenty of space to pull up near their lorry yard entrance and take some pictures / have a smell if the wind is blowing in the right direction.

[vixen1700]

Picked up a bottle of this last week as I was in Edinburgh.

Mrs.vixen saw an artucle in one of her Country Living type magazines about NC'Nean organic whisky and ordered up a bottle together with their gin which arrived 5 minutes ago. Anybody tried it?

[vixen1700]

[eein]

Had the Mcnean batch 6 on a whisky me sample and rated it quite highly (scored 4 on my 1-5 scoring system).

[Philrose]

I've got Nc'Nean Quiet Rebels and also had a bottle of the first release. Both are very good and left to open up in the glass are very complex young whiskies. Enjoy