Pizza Oven Thread

[Sy1441]

I've not managed to make a pizza I'm pleased with yet on my Ooni, stretching and launching the dough has been my downfall, well that along with the Glasgow weather which is limiting my practice!

[PanicBuyingBogRoll]

Sy1441 said:

I've not managed to make a pizza I'm pleased with yet on my Ooni, stretching and launching the dough has been my downfall, well that along with the Glasgow weather which is limiting my practice!

It takes practice. I found that starting of with a lower hydration dough helped get the launching right. And just using a rolling pin to ensure a consistent base thickness. Also make sure the peel isn't hot or warm from the previous pizza.

What has worked for me is two key things.

Firstly, getting the balling right and leaving them for long enough to relax properly. This gives a nice easy consistent dough to work with.

Secondly. Ball weight. For adults I now do 240g balls, and 210g for the kids.
They are not quite as thin, but easier to work with, seem to cook better and are less prone to burning.

[giblet]

Yidwann said:

So I wanted it to be a pizza oven so went for the one 100cm Italian, its lower and the chimney at the front it really draws well.

Awesome. What’s it like for heat up time and heat retention?

[Yidwann]

So you could get it up to heat in about 45 mins, I have never struggled, I always have the fire in the middle of it for that time, then shovel the fire to the back of the oven and chuck another couple of logs on just before cooking to make sure there is a fire going in there. I love it, yeah it takes a bit more effort and takes a bit longer, but its an event when you fire it up and have people over.

[Algarve]

Sy1441 said:

Algarve said:

They can write what they want in there.... they owe you the money back for the item and the postage. There doesn't even need to be anything wrong with the item. You can just change your mind.

That's incorrect, the buyer is liable for return postage if returning under what was the DSR regulations and not due to damage.

Pizza oven seller says said:

We strongly suggest you contact us prior to placing the order to make sure you are ordering the correct product to suit your needs, Customers ordering the wrong item are more than welcome to return there items as long as they are still in brand new resealable condition, The customer will be responsible for the shipping costs both ways, the minimum courier cost both ways would be a minimum of £120

They can't make you responsible for both ways, they need to return the original postage. So they're going to steal £120+ from you if take up your legal right to return it.

The law says said:

Notify the retailer of your wish to cancel the goods and return them within the returns time period.

After returning the goods, the retailer should refund you the cost of the goods and the standard delivery cost you paid to get the goods sent to you in the first place.

Your refund for the goods and standard delivery cost must be paid within 14 calendar days after returning the goods, or evidence that they were returned.

If the retailer has offered to collect the goods, it should refund you 14 days from the date you informed it you wanted to cancel the contract. So, this means you don't have to wait for the retailer to have collected the goods to get your refund.

[SpeckledJim]

Algarve said:

Sy1441 said:

Algarve said:

They can write what they want in there.... they owe you the money back for the item and the postage. There doesn't even need to be anything wrong with the item. You can just change your mind.

That's incorrect, the buyer is liable for return postage if returning under what was the DSR regulations and not due to damage.

Pizza oven seller says said:

We strongly suggest you contact us prior to placing the order to make sure you are ordering the correct product to suit your needs, Customers ordering the wrong item are more than welcome to return there items as long as they are still in brand new resealable condition, The customer will be responsible for the shipping costs both ways, the minimum courier cost both ways would be a minimum of £120

They can't make you responsible for both ways, they need to return the original postage. So they're going to steal £120+ from you if take up your legal right to return it.

The law says said:

Notify the retailer of your wish to cancel the goods and return them within the returns time period.

After returning the goods, the retailer should refund you the cost of the goods and the standard delivery cost you paid to get the goods sent to you in the first place.

Your refund for the goods and standard delivery cost must be paid within 14 calendar days after returning the goods, or evidence that they were returned.

If the retailer has offered to collect the goods, it should refund you 14 days from the date you informed it you wanted to cancel the contract. So, this means you don't have to wait for the retailer to have collected the goods to get your refund.

Does it honestly sound reasonable that you can order half a ton of something to be carefully delivered across the country to your door for you to decide you don't want it and they should just happily take half a ton of something back across the country again, at zero cost whatsoever to yourself?

Presumably given you were 'entirely within your rights' you can then do it again next week?

[illmonkey]

Who gives a crap, go start an other thread. Back to pizzas, please!

I'll be indulging in some over the weekend, 1/2 day on Friday so possible afternoon pie in the sun.

Whats the slow prove idea, just do it 24 hours before for a longer prove in the fridge?

[Algarve]

SpeckledJim said:

Does it honestly sound reasonable that you can order half a ton of something to be carefully delivered across the country to your door for you to decide you don't want it and they should just happily take half a ton of something back across the country again, at zero cost whatsoever to yourself?

Presumably given you were 'entirely within your rights' you can then do it again next week?

It doesn't sound reasonable no... but shops don't get to pick and choose which of the laws they're going to comply with and then lie about your rights to hide it.

They could work around it though - force you to customise the item then you can't return it just because you feel like it.

[illmonkey]

shut up shut up shut up!

Pizza

[ecsrobin]

Pizza!!!!

[SpeckledJim]

fair enough!

[Yidwann]

illmonkey said:

Who gives a crap, go start an other thread. Back to pizzas, please!

I'll be indulging in some over the weekend, 1/2 day on Friday so possible afternoon pie in the sun.

Whats the slow prove idea, just do it 24 hours before for a longer prove in the fridge?

So very simply usually to these measurements for Neapolitan pizza I do this starting the day before:

1.5kg of Caputo Blue 00 Flour
1g of Dried Yeast
50g of Maldon Sea Salt Flakes
1 Litre of Cold Water

Mix and work that for about 10 minutes, over working it can make it worse and then put it in a tray, cover and leave overnight 12-13 hours.

Next morning, cut that into 280g dough balls, and shape making sure you form a tight skin over the top of the dough by tucking it in on itself underneath and shape it nicely. Leave it on the top again for an hour, then into the fridge for around 7-8 ready for that evening. I haven't felt the need to prove for longer, you can see my results on the previous page, I have been really happy with them.

[giblet]

Yidwann said:

So you could get it up to heat in about 45 mins, I have never struggled, I always have the fire in the middle of it for that time, then shovel the fire to the back of the oven and chuck another couple of logs on just before cooking to make sure there is a fire going in there. I love it, yeah it takes a bit more effort and takes a bit longer, but its an event when you fire it up and have people over.

Not a whole lot longer than getting my Uuni up to temps at times then!

Gave my badly drawn layout to the builder today and he looked at me like I was an idiot. Waiting for him to start making the plinth and then I’ll put my order in. 100cm Italian corner in grey

[Burwood]

Algarve said:

hyphen said:

Ive seen different companies have different policies. Some companies will never give postage back, just cost of item

They can write what they want in there.... they owe you the money back for the item and the postage. There doesn't even need to be anything wrong with the item. You can just change your mind.

As an expert in this field I ‘ll happily tell you. Wrong. There needs to be a fault for the vendor to pay. You can return anything not bespoke online but you pay IF there is a fault.It’s all too common. Poster talking st. Move on. It’s pizza

Edited by Burwood on Tuesday 23 June 21:45

[stevemcs]

Yidwann said:

So very simply usually to these measurements for Neapolitan pizza I do this starting the day before:

1.5kg of Caputo Blue 00 Flour
1g of Dried Yeast
50g of Maldon Sea Salt Flakes
1 Litre of Cold Water

Mix and work that for about 10 minutes, over working it can make it worse and then put it in a tray, cover and leave overnight 12-13 hours.

Next morning, cut that into 280g dough balls, and shape making sure you form a tight skin over the top of the dough by tucking it in on itself underneath and shape it nicely. Leave it on the top again for an hour, then into the fridge for around 7-8 ready for that evening. I haven't felt the need to prove for longer, you can see my results on the previous page, I have been really happy with them.

How may dough balls would that make ?

[Yidwann]

7 or 8

[Burwood]

stevemcs said:

Yidwann said:

So very simply usually to these measurements for Neapolitan pizza I do this starting the day before:

1.5kg of Caputo Blue 00 Flour
1g of Dried Yeast
50g of Maldon Sea Salt Flakes
1 Litre of Cold Water

Mix and work that for about 10 minutes, over working it can make it worse and then put it in a tray, cover and leave overnight 12-13 hours.

Next morning, cut that into 280g dough balls, and shape making sure you form a tight skin over the top of the dough by tucking it in on itself underneath and shape it nicely. Leave it on the top again for an hour, then into the fridge for around 7-8 ready for that evening. I haven't felt the need to prove for longer, you can see my results on the previous page, I have been really happy with them.

How may dough balls would that make ?

You just add the weight. My math says 2500g plus the yeast and salt. 9 at a pinch. Few over and under

[Algarve]

Burwood said:

As an expert in this field I ‘ll happily tell you. Wrong. There needs to be a fault for the vendor to pay. You can return anything not bespoke online but you pay IF there is a fault.It’s all too common. Poster talking st. Move on. It’s pizza

Edited by Burwood on Tuesday 23 June 21:45

You're not much of an expert then are you.

https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/advice/i-w...

I only posted originally as a friendly warning to anyone considering ordering. I'm not going to derail any further by replying again, feel free to do your own research if you actually care. Enjoy the pizzas everyone.

Edited by Algarve on Tuesday 23 June 22:26

[naturals]

Algarve said:

You're not much of an expert then are you.

https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/advice/i-w...

I only posted originally as a friendly warning to anyone considering ordering. I'm not going to derail any further by replying again, feel free to do your own research if you actually care. Enjoy the pizzas everyone.

Edited by Algarve on Tuesday 23 June 22:26

You're going to be furious when you actually read that article...

"You must cover the delivery cost for returning unwanted goods, unless the retailer says it will pay for returns."

[PanicBuyingBogRoll]

illmonkey said:

Who gives a crap, go start an other thread. Back to pizzas, please!

I'll be indulging in some over the weekend, 1/2 day on Friday so possible afternoon pie in the sun.

Whats the slow prove idea, just do it 24 hours before for a longer prove in the fridge?

Not all flour works well with longer fermentation times. So you'll need to experiment with what you have. The unfortunate consequence is you have to eat a load of pizza ..

I use Caputo blue as its better with shorter fermentation times. I don't have the fridge space for long ferments so It works well for me. I can also make decent pizza at relatively short notice if needed.