Pizza Oven Thread

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Percy Cushion

1,150 posts

221 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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dxbtiger said:
Realise this may be sacrilege here so go easy, any experience using the La Hacienda BBQ Pizza Oven (or similar) on a gas bbq?

How close does it get to the 'proper' ovens?

Tend to use our gas bbq 3/4 times a week year round here, looking at options to add Pizza to the mix.
I have a gas bbq and a bbq stone. 200C for 7-10 minutes and the pizzas are spot on

21TonyK

11,536 posts

210 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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Pellets or wood?or something else?

Just been given what I am assuming is an ooni copy with 20kg of pellets so thought I'd give it a bash.

First fire, half filled the basket with pellets and a bit of fire lighter, got it going and put it in the back. Door on, top vent open 1/4". Got up to 375C in about 15 mins so happy with that. Then it died off rapidly so fed it half a mug of pellets, took the door off resulting in loads of smoke resulting in a blacked stone and interior.

Left it all to cool and tried again, same half full basket, lit, kept door on, vent 1/4" open. Loads of smoke, got up to about 300 then died after 20 mins, fed a bit, door on. More smoke, door on no heat just loads of smoke.

Are pellets the problem or technique?


thebraketester

14,246 posts

139 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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21TonyK said:
Pellets or wood?or something else?

Just been given what I am assuming is an ooni copy with 20kg of pellets so thought I'd give it a bash.

First fire, half filled the basket with pellets and a bit of fire lighter, got it going and put it in the back. Door on, top vent open 1/4". Got up to 375C in about 15 mins so happy with that. Then it died off rapidly so fed it half a mug of pellets, took the door off resulting in loads of smoke resulting in a blacked stone and interior.

Left it all to cool and tried again, same half full basket, lit, kept door on, vent 1/4" open. Loads of smoke, got up to about 300 then died after 20 mins, fed a bit, door on. More smoke, door on no heat just loads of smoke.

Are pellets the problem or technique?
I had similar issue with certain pellets, hard wood ones IIRC. That was the final mail on the coffin for the pellet fed one, and I bought a gas version.

giblet

8,859 posts

178 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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I replaced pellets with bits of chopped up hardwood and found it way easier to use and maintain temps with. Kindling also works well. This is on my Uuni 2S which is a little old compared to the current models

vaud

50,584 posts

156 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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It’s why I gave up on my wood fired Ooni and bought a gas one; much happier with results. Taste is slightly different but temp is super stable and very hot (>500c)

pokethepope

2,657 posts

189 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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21TonyK said:
pokethepope said:
I know that Neapolitan pizzas are characterised by their big puffy crusts, but i'm sometimes left thinking mine are a bit too puffy. Could this be due to too much yeast, or my stretching technique? Other than this minor gripe, i'm very happy with my dough - super easy to work with (so if it is too much yeast, it's certainly not enough to over-prove it in the sense that the dough becomes unworkable).
What % hydration? More water, more bubbles.
65%. I hadn't thought of the connection between hydration and bubbles. Thanks for the tip, I'll experiment with lower hydration.

pokethepope

2,657 posts

189 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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thebraketester said:
I had similar issue with certain pellets, hard wood ones IIRC. That was the final mail on the coffin for the pellet fed one, and I bought a gas version.
I found it OK with the Ooni pellets which I think are hardwood. With softwood pellets (often sold as cat litter or at plumbing supply stores), it was much more sooty and smokey unless you had the combustion absolutely perfect (on a windy day, forget it). Gas is the way forward unless you're doing a full size brick oven IMO.

justin220

5,347 posts

205 months

Sunday 5th June 2022
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I much prefer gas on the Ooni aswell, saves a lot of hassle for how little time the pizza is actually in the oven cooking.

Saying that, yesterday was the first cook this year but struggled a bit to get the base crispy without burning the crusts. I was using Great Balls of Flour pre made balls, but suspect I hadn't stretched them thin enough. Embarrassingly I used to always use a rolling pin to roll the dough balls out until yesterday.

This was probably the best effort out of four


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hotchy

4,474 posts

127 months

Sunday 5th June 2022
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justin220 said:
I much prefer gas on the Ooni aswell, saves a lot of hassle for how little time the pizza is actually in the oven cooking.

Saying that, yesterday was the first cook this year but struggled a bit to get the base crispy without burning the crusts. I was using Great Balls of Flour pre made balls, but suspect I hadn't stretched them thin enough. Embarrassingly I used to always use a rolling pin to roll the dough balls out until yesterday.

This was probably the best effort out of four


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Someone may have asked but where did you get that table?

Taita

7,609 posts

204 months

Sunday 5th June 2022
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justin220 said:
I much prefer gas on the Ooni aswell, saves a lot of hassle for how little time the pizza is actually in the oven cooking.

Saying that, yesterday was the first cook this year but struggled a bit to get the base crispy without burning the crusts. I was using Great Balls of Flour pre made balls, but suspect I hadn't stretched them thin enough. Embarrassingly I used to always use a rolling pin to roll the dough balls out until yesterday.

This was probably the best effort out of four


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I think that pizza looks great!

justin220

5,347 posts

205 months

Sunday 5th June 2022
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It's a Keter Unity XL. Got it from some online garden shop. Garden world online I think.

Really quite impressed with it for the money (£250). Plenty storage, towel rail, hooks for tools etc. Bug enough storage for the patio gas bottle aswell

justin220

5,347 posts

205 months

Sunday 5th June 2022
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Taita said:
I think that pizza looks great!
I think I should have stretched it a few more inches out to thin in out, but tasted good!

Arnold Cunningham

3,773 posts

254 months

Sunday 5th June 2022
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sjg said:
Doable with a couple of gas ovens and someone else to split the stretching/prepping/cooking duties. Can you borrow another one?

If you try to do dozens of pizzas quickly in a domestic oven they cool down and they’ll take longer and longer until you give it a break to warm back up. Alternate a couple of ovens and you have one warming up while one cooks.
Done! Didn’t need to do 2 hours, 28 pizzas in one hour of cooking on 2 ovens was enough. No helper and happy “customers” all round.

hotchy

4,474 posts

127 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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justin220 said:
It's a Keter Unity XL. Got it from some online garden shop. Garden world online I think.

Really quite impressed with it for the money (£250). Plenty storage, towel rail, hooks for tools etc. Bug enough storage for the patio gas bottle aswell
Perfect. I found it online going to order one for myself. Thanks.

wilbo83

1,535 posts

166 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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justin220 said:
It's a Keter Unity XL. Got it from some online garden shop. Garden world online I think.

Really quite impressed with it for the money (£250). Plenty storage, towel rail, hooks for tools etc. Bug enough storage for the patio gas bottle aswell
Is there enough space to store the Ooni inside it also? Been thinking of getting a table to use for my WGA and store a few bits, but if this also stores an Ooni, I could be tempted to get one.

CooperS

4,506 posts

220 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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Small report back on the Gozney Dome - 6 pizza sessions in (so probably 10 pizzas made), cooked chicken, roasted crushed potatoes with Garlic butter etc etc .

I’m completely sold. When you add up the accessories it is absurd how much I’ve spent on it but everything feels solid and made to last. I love the attention to detail in the messaging on the packaging as you open up that £50 pizza rocker etc.

Haven’t cooked with wood yet so going to get family round to justify the time to do it and give it a go.


Arnold Cunningham

3,773 posts

254 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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CooperS said:
I’m completely sold. When you add up the accessories it is absurd how much I’ve spent
When I did my 28 pizza session at the street party, loads of people were asking me "how much".

Before my ooni I go to the nearby pizza van.
I reckon I used to spend 30-40 quid on pizzas for the family on a saturday night - 3 pizzas and a garlic bread, maybe 4 pizzas.
It was a 15 minute drive each way, and the pizzas were always cooling off buy the time I got home.
So 40 quid for lukewarm pizza.

An Ooni pizza, if you buy their dough, costs £1.66. Plus pellets - but I use the wolesley bag which is both cheap and massive.
And then toppings - which aren't expensive either.

And then the pizza's are served super fresh straight from oven to plate.

So I reckon we're getting better pizzas for a lot less money than we used to pay - and those savings go into the cost of the kit we bought.
I think it works out pretty well.



J8 SVG

1,468 posts

131 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Arnold Cunningham said:
An Ooni pizza, if you buy their dough, costs £1.66. Plus pellets - but I use the wolesley bag which is both cheap and massive.
And then toppings - which aren't expensive either.
I've worked out our pizzas cost about £70p each all in (Dough, toppings, Gas) although we tend to eat 3 between 2 people.

Nearest nicer pizza place makes pizzas from the 90s and they are £11-13 each!!

Only problem is, every time people come over, they demand pizza so we make a lot of 70p pizzas a month

Arnold Cunningham

3,773 posts

254 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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That's pretty good! I could certainly save more money if I made my own dough - but I am still a slave to a little bit of "convenience".

RosscoPCole

3,320 posts

175 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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I know I should be a perfect and make my iwn dough from scratch, but when I'm feeling lazy I want to grab something and go. Where do you buy decent, but not overly expensive dough balls from?