Burgers & fries prices
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hstewie said:
hstewie said:Thankyou4calling said:
These places aren’t fine dining, it’s basic stuff being punted at not very basic prices and maybe they’re being found out.
I've not had a Byron but just went on the website and a burger, fries, and a drink is about £15.That's to collect.
A McDonald's Signature meal is £6.50 and I would expect McDonald's have a lot lower overheads.
It's unfortunate but I'm not surprised if there aren't enough people prepared to pay it.
Each to their own, of course, but I've never had a good meal or customer service at a Byron. Once, when our preferred burger joint couldn't open because of issues with their equipment and we had to go to Byron, we had such a sarcastic and smug waiter it completely put me off them forever.
The issue with places like Byron and GBK is that the market is over saturated right now. There's a ton of new cool burger places popping out, from indies to new chains and most of them have some kinda niche. With chains like Byron, GBK and even Dirty Burger, they were one of the "pioneers" of the "gourmet" type burgers and at the start, "gourmet" was enough to attract many people but frankly, most of their burgers are boring and generic with no real standouts.
I'm a burger lover and I'd happily spend money on burgers but as long as it tastes nice and is different
e.g:
-shake shack, their niche is being "smash style" burgers with soft potato buns
-Burger and beyond- cheesy, messy American style burgers
-Bleeker burger- High-quality dry aged meat
-Patty and bun- Ari gold burger
you get the idea.
I'm a burger lover and I'd happily spend money on burgers but as long as it tastes nice and is different
e.g:
-shake shack, their niche is being "smash style" burgers with soft potato buns
-Burger and beyond- cheesy, messy American style burgers
-Bleeker burger- High-quality dry aged meat
-Patty and bun- Ari gold burger
you get the idea.
In my experience, I've always found the best burgers to be at independent restaurants, particularly ones who specialise in steaks. The Carrington Arms in Moulsoe (near Milton Keynes) and the Fox & Hounds in Riseley do very nice burgers on their lunch menus and the prices aren't completely unreasonable. The trouble is finding the good places.
Burwood said:
hyphen said:
Sa Calobra said:
Is it just me? Everywhere now seems to charge at least £10 for a burger and a few fries thrown in. Often the fries will be in a small pot of some sort and the burger in my opinion meagre. Even when you get additions the price seems to go north over £15.
Am I being tight?
No it appears not https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jan/09/b...Am I being tight?
Let's get some truth out there. I've worked for some food companies. Few pubs and restaurants make their own homemade burgers. The vast majority of food outlets from your burger van to mid to upper restaurants will purchase their supplies from Booker, Batleys or Bidfood (formerly 3663).
Love that meal you had in that posh restaurant at the weekend? Cooked to perfection? It was probably microwaved Bidfood portions. Nice Sunday roast? Think the meat was roasted fresh? Nope - probably Bidfood portions. Most of the work is done presenting the dish from pouches. It's amazing how in the UK we come so far with so many restaurants and pubs using pre-cooked portions.
I can go into a food establishment and tell exactly what they use. It's a con sometimes but I can say a lot of times it does taste good.
Love that meal you had in that posh restaurant at the weekend? Cooked to perfection? It was probably microwaved Bidfood portions. Nice Sunday roast? Think the meat was roasted fresh? Nope - probably Bidfood portions. Most of the work is done presenting the dish from pouches. It's amazing how in the UK we come so far with so many restaurants and pubs using pre-cooked portions.
I can go into a food establishment and tell exactly what they use. It's a con sometimes but I can say a lot of times it does taste good.
vikingaero said:
Let's get some truth out there...
I can go into a food establishment and tell exactly what they use.
Wife and I used to play "Brakes Bingo" first one to guess the product codes when the plates hit the table won! I can go into a food establishment and tell exactly what they use.
Surprising what materialising in 3 rosette restaurants!
vikingaero said:
Let's get some truth out there. I've worked for some food companies. Few pubs and restaurants make their own homemade burgers. The vast majority of food outlets from your burger van to mid to upper restaurants will purchase their supplies from Booker, Batleys or Bidfood (formerly 3663).
Love that meal you had in that posh restaurant at the weekend? Cooked to perfection? It was probably microwaved Bidfood portions. Nice Sunday roast? Think the meat was roasted fresh? Nope - probably Bidfood portions. Most of the work is done presenting the dish from pouches. It's amazing how in the UK we come so far with so many restaurants and pubs using pre-cooked portions.
I can go into a food establishment and tell exactly what they use. It's a con sometimes but I can say a lot of times it does taste good.
Lmao, you talk as if every place does this, let's not generalise. It MAY be true for pubs and crappy chains but I highly doubt many independent places or restaurants that do legit food do this. I know for a fact, a few independent places that do all their cooking from scratch using fresh ingredients and some of these places are far from "posh".Love that meal you had in that posh restaurant at the weekend? Cooked to perfection? It was probably microwaved Bidfood portions. Nice Sunday roast? Think the meat was roasted fresh? Nope - probably Bidfood portions. Most of the work is done presenting the dish from pouches. It's amazing how in the UK we come so far with so many restaurants and pubs using pre-cooked portions.
I can go into a food establishment and tell exactly what they use. It's a con sometimes but I can say a lot of times it does taste good.
P.s this is coming from someone that's literally been brought up in the industry.
DoodoolTala said:
Lmao, you talk as if every place does this, let's not generalise. It MAY be true for pubs and crappy chains but I highly doubt many independent places or restaurants that do legit food do this. I know for a fact, a few independent places that do all their cooking from scratch using fresh ingredients and some of these places are far from "posh".
P.s this is coming from someone that's literally been brought up in the industry.
I'm not saying that every place does this and you have to be wary that this isn't just confined to pubs and chains. But more and more independents are switching from cooked from scratch to portion-o-rama in a bag. Some places will cook from scratch some food and microwave in a bag others dishes.P.s this is coming from someone that's literally been brought up in the industry.
vikingaero said:
DoodoolTala said:
Lmao, you talk as if every place does this, let's not generalise. It MAY be true for pubs and crappy chains but I highly doubt many independent places or restaurants that do legit food do this. I know for a fact, a few independent places that do all their cooking from scratch using fresh ingredients and some of these places are far from "posh".
P.s this is coming from someone that's literally been brought up in the industry.
I'm not saying that every place does this and you have to be wary that this isn't just confined to pubs and chains. But more and more independents are switching from cooked from scratch to portion-o-rama in a bag. Some places will cook from scratch some food and microwave in a bag others dishes.P.s this is coming from someone that's literally been brought up in the industry.
Anyway, back on track about burger prices. I'm sure its been said before, the price you pay for the food is not a reflection of its cost, its a reflection of the rent, rates, staff costs, VAT, utilities et all. Then the ingredients and profit (if any),
Flip side I can think of several that do make pretty much everything themselves.
Edited by 21TonyK on Tuesday 23 January 17:40
vikingaero said:
Let's get some truth out there. I've worked for some food companies. Few pubs and restaurants make their own homemade burgers. The vast majority of food outlets from your burger van to mid to upper restaurants will purchase their supplies from Booker, Batleys or Bidfood (formerly 3663).
Love that meal you had in that posh restaurant at the weekend? Cooked to perfection? It was probably microwaved Bidfood portions. Nice Sunday roast? Think the meat was roasted fresh? Nope - probably Bidfood portions. Most of the work is done presenting the dish from pouches. It's amazing how in the UK we come so far with so many restaurants and pubs using pre-cooked portions.
I can go into a food establishment and tell exactly what they use. It's a con sometimes but I can say a lot of times it does taste good.
Five guys definitely make the patties fresh as they cook it in front of you, anyone else who can get away with prepackaged will. Love that meal you had in that posh restaurant at the weekend? Cooked to perfection? It was probably microwaved Bidfood portions. Nice Sunday roast? Think the meat was roasted fresh? Nope - probably Bidfood portions. Most of the work is done presenting the dish from pouches. It's amazing how in the UK we come so far with so many restaurants and pubs using pre-cooked portions.
I can go into a food establishment and tell exactly what they use. It's a con sometimes but I can say a lot of times it does taste good.
vikingaero said:
DoodoolTala said:
Lmao, you talk as if every place does this, let's not generalise. It MAY be true for pubs and crappy chains but I highly doubt many independent places or restaurants that do legit food do this. I know for a fact, a few independent places that do all their cooking from scratch using fresh ingredients and some of these places are far from "posh".
P.s this is coming from someone that's literally been brought up in the industry.
I'm not saying that every place does this and you have to be wary that this isn't just confined to pubs and chains. But more and more independents are switching from cooked from scratch to portion-o-rama in a bag. Some places will cook from scratch some food and microwave in a bag others dishes.P.s this is coming from someone that's literally been brought up in the industry.
as we were!
ChrisnChris said:
markcoznottz said:
Five guys definitely make the patties fresh as they cook it in front of you
Do they make it in front of you?They do cut the mince and shape it themselves but that’s about it. Don’t get the fuss that they don’t use seasonings etc in the mince which gives a burger the flavour. Wasn’t impressed when I had one and glad I didn’t buy it! No I didn’t steal it either was doin a job for them and they fed me.
ChrisnChris said:
markcoznottz said:
Five guys definitely make the patties fresh as they cook it in front of you
Do they make it in front of you?id venture that Mcd's in the states is nicer burger than the overpriced crap you get from 5 guys or shakeshack, over here. yet to try smashburger but imagine its the same. fatburger is better but in a w
ky part of londontheplayingmantis said:
5 guys is no barometer. hugely overrated by a british public who dont know what a proper american burger should be.
id venture that Mcd's in the states is nicer burger than the overpriced crap you get from 5 guys or shakeshack, over here. yet to try smashburger but imagine its the same. fatburger is better but in a wky part of london
McDonald's in America is absolutely terrible.id venture that Mcd's in the states is nicer burger than the overpriced crap you get from 5 guys or shakeshack, over here. yet to try smashburger but imagine its the same. fatburger is better but in a w
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