Burgers & fries prices
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BrabusMog said:
C70R said:
BrabusMog said:
C70R said:
Jesus, this place baffles me...
GBK are "the best".
Wetherspoons offers "good" burgers.
Man v Food in Hounslow is "the best".
I have to wonder where some of you guys are eating if these are your impressions of good burgers...
GBK are "the best".
Wetherspoons offers "good" burgers.
Man v Food in Hounslow is "the best".
I have to wonder where some of you guys are eating if these are your impressions of good burgers...
Spoons burgers offer value for money when you look at the pric
Food offering value-for-money and being "good" aren't the same thing.
There is no quality implication whatsoever in 'value for money'. I could say that getting 10 McDonald's hamburgers for the same price as one GBK burger represented better value, because I was getting roughly ten times the volume for the same cost.
If we're going to use words like "good" and "best", lets reserve it at least for things that deserve it on the basis of quality and taste. Wetherspoons food is cheaply-sourced and cooked with almost no love whatsoever - it doesn't belong in a conversation with the likes of Bleeker burgers.
Thankyou4calling said:
Yes Man V Food in Hounslow was really good.
It's a burger so it's not going to be fine dining but for me it was absolutely first class, not the best but close.
Are you talking about the one near Syon Lane/Sky? If so, I took an old colleague out there while visiting him at Sky. Both our meals were greasy and the meat was VERY low quality. The fact that it was empty on a Thursday lunchtime, while several thousand people ate on the Sky campus 5min walk away says it all.It's a burger so it's not going to be fine dining but for me it was absolutely first class, not the best but close.
ETA - I've just had a look on Google, and while we might be talking about different branches, the reviews say it all. Nowhere averaging 3.7-3.8 is producing "great" food.
thebraketester said:
I would say that GBK is on the first run of the ladder in terms of quality from a burger chain over McD and BK.
I wouldn't disagree, GBK is marginally better than McD's or BK. However for the price of GBK, there are better options.I operate on the Burger + Chips + Drink cost, GBK is in the £12-15 category. McD's and BK are in the sub £6 category, Spoons and most pubs are in the £6-12 category.
GBK is in the same category as Honest, Byrons, 7Bone, Dip and Flip and 5G, given that you're not getting much change from £14 for GBK's most basic burger and chips with coke I'd rather go to Honest or 5G if available, I'd only choose GBK over Byrons really, even then I'd consider going to McD's and saving £8.
I don't get the love for 5 Guys, still. It always seems to be pricier than anywhere else in practice, the burger itself is bland and that isn't livened up by all the toppings in any of the combos I've tried. I don't think GBK got it right with the ordering then table delivery (do they still do it that way?) but they at least pre-empted the wave of burger places and their offering is pretty reasonable. Much prefer Byron to both.
At risk of incurring C70R's wrath, I rate the burgers in a Beefeater. I was quite surprised when my wife expressed a liking for them, but open-mindedly tasted hers and the meat has flavour and texture; it's pretty good. Just make sure you get one of the perennial 40% off codes rather than paying the full menu price.
At risk of incurring C70R's wrath, I rate the burgers in a Beefeater. I was quite surprised when my wife expressed a liking for them, but open-mindedly tasted hers and the meat has flavour and texture; it's pretty good. Just make sure you get one of the perennial 40% off codes rather than paying the full menu price.
Jobbo said:
I don't get the love for 5 Guys, still. It always seems to be pricier than anywhere else in practice, the burger itself is bland and that isn't livened up by all the toppings in any of the combos I've tried. I don't think GBK got it right with the ordering then table delivery (do they still do it that way?) but they at least pre-empted the wave of burger places and their offering is pretty reasonable. Much prefer Byron to both.
£13, an empty store... they could at least bring it to the table...Jobbo said:
I don't get the love for 5 Guys, still. It always seems to be pricier than anywhere else in practice, the burger itself is bland and that isn't livened up by all the toppings in any of the combos I've tried. I don't think GBK got it right with the ordering then table delivery (do they still do it that way?) but they at least pre-empted the wave of burger places and their offering is pretty reasonable. Much prefer Byron to both.
At risk of incurring C70R's wrath, I rate the burgers in a Beefeater. I was quite surprised when my wife expressed a liking for them, but open-mindedly tasted hers and the meat has flavour and texture; it's pretty good. Just make sure you get one of the perennial 40% off codes rather than paying the full menu price.
Its simple, naive people think its more upmarket than the usual takeaways due to marketing, higher prices nicer premises etc. by proxy its considered better without people really thinking about it or the taste (or lack of). im in essex, colchester and chelmsford have recently got or getting 5Gs and the local papers heavily been promoting it, FB, etc. At risk of incurring C70R's wrath, I rate the burgers in a Beefeater. I was quite surprised when my wife expressed a liking for them, but open-mindedly tasted hers and the meat has flavour and texture; it's pretty good. Just make sure you get one of the perennial 40% off codes rather than paying the full menu price.
its style over substance that is the tag line of society today.
people who actually know about this kind of food food, more specifically burgers (i would say you cannot say you know about burgers until you've eaten a wide variety in the States to get a true feel of how good they can be, although as mentioned there are places here that make good ones), generally don't care for 5Gs...some of the seasoning on the fries into the burgers would help them no end!
there's nothing wrong with it, buts its overpriced for an average insipid product.
theplayingmantis said:
Its simple, naive people think its more upmarket than the usual takeaways due to marketing, higher prices nicer premises etc. by proxy its considered better without people really thinking about it or the taste (or lack of). im in essex, colchester and chelmsford have recently got or getting 5Gs and the local papers heavily been promoting it, FB, etc.
its style over substance that is the tag line of society today.
I don't think it's style over substance.its style over substance that is the tag line of society today.
McDonalds got so big by being consistent. No matter which McD's you go to in the country its the same menu and the same quality. You know what you're going to get. I dare say you could go the world over and the food at McD's is pretty similar, I cant say the same for BK, Subway or KFC.
5 Guys is doing well because they're consistent and quality. You know what you're going to get and how good it is. I'd say Nandos is the same but I've found UK Nandos terrible compared to Oz.
However the coming economic instability is going to see a few of these chains fail, specifically the ones that expanded too fast. We've already seen a few start to go under like Gaucho's CAU brand. I dont think it'll be the likes of 5 Guys or Shake Shack though as they're famous enough to weather it.
captain_cynic said:
theplayingmantis said:
Its simple, naive people think its more upmarket than the usual takeaways due to marketing, higher prices nicer premises etc. by proxy its considered better without people really thinking about it or the taste (or lack of). im in essex, colchester and chelmsford have recently got or getting 5Gs and the local papers heavily been promoting it, FB, etc.
its style over substance that is the tag line of society today.
I don't think it's style over substance.its style over substance that is the tag line of society today.
McDonalds got so big by being consistent. No matter which McD's you go to in the country its the same menu and the same quality. You know what you're going to get. I dare say you could go the world over and the food at McD's is pretty similar, I cant say the same for BK, Subway or KFC.
5 Guys is doing well because they're consistent and quality. You know what you're going to get and how good it is. I'd say Nandos is the same but I've found UK Nandos terrible compared to Oz.
However the coming economic instability is going to see a few of these chains fail, specifically the ones that expanded too fast. We've already seen a few start to go under like Gaucho's CAU brand. I dont think it'll be the likes of 5 Guys or Shake Shack though as they're famous enough to weather it.
captain_cynic said:
I dont think it'll be the likes of 5 Guys or Shake Shack though as they're famous enough to weather it.
For 5 guys...It's a saturated market. They have some very high cost premises.
On a sample size of one visit (12:15pm) on a cool day, in summer holidays in one of the richest towns in the North of England there were 3 customers. I had an awful burger.
Walking past the competition they all seemed busy.
I give them 12 months before we see store closures. I don't see their model being that different to Byrons.
Vaud said:
For 5 guys...
It's a saturated market. They have some very high cost premises.
On a sample size of one visit (12:15pm) on a cool day, in summer holidays in one of the richest towns in the North of England there were 3 customers. I had an awful burger.
Walking past the competition they all seemed busy.
I give them 12 months before we see store closures. I don't see their model being that different to Byrons.
I've rarely seen a 5 guys not busy at lunch or dinner... Middle of the day sure but not when people are eating. Most, if not all the chains are under the same pressure with high cost premises. The difference is that Five Guys (like Shake Shack) are supported by large a multinational chain. The difference between 5G and SS is that 5G is supported by Five Guys LLC rather than a multi-franchise operator like SS. Byrons OTOH is owned by a London PE firm and is already under pressure as they expanded too quickly. It's a saturated market. They have some very high cost premises.
On a sample size of one visit (12:15pm) on a cool day, in summer holidays in one of the richest towns in the North of England there were 3 customers. I had an awful burger.
Walking past the competition they all seemed busy.
I give them 12 months before we see store closures. I don't see their model being that different to Byrons.
Personally I've never had a bad 5G and never had a good Byrons (around the south, both Reading and Guilford 5G, Byrons in Camberley and Clapham).
I think we'll see plenty of store closures over the next year, just not from 5 Guys.
BrabusMog said:
Shake Shack is owned by Alshaya, they'll never go under https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.H._Alshaya_Co.
Incorrect. Shake shack is publicly listed on the NYSE.Roman Rhodes said:
BrabusMog said:
Shake Shack is owned by Alshaya, they'll never go under https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.H._Alshaya_Co.
Incorrect. Shake shack is publicly listed on the NYSE.Vaud said:
Roman Rhodes said:
BrabusMog said:
Shake Shack is owned by Alshaya, they'll never go under https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.H._Alshaya_Co.
Incorrect. Shake shack is publicly listed on the NYSE.Gassing Station | Food, Drink & Restaurants | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff